If eastmond doesn't play, i'm really not sure.

In a grand final you need gamebreakers to put the crucial points on the board. Saints could be without 2 of their main gamebreakers.

Wigans defence is formiddable. Even if you do get half gaps, their scramble defence is equal and things are closed up fast. You aint gonna barge your way over. Saints have the forwards to get into the good positions but I'm not sure they have the je ne sais quoi to score the points.

It's been similiar in the last 3 grand finals. You've been in good positions at crucial times when points were needed but not scored the points.

Hope i'm wrong but...wigan by 8.

Smith has imo proved that with a dominant pack he can make the chances, we'll be alright on the night!

KC will lift us im sure of it

Quietly confident and praying for rain.

We can do it, like we did at the Dim Wit stadium but for once can we get behind the team in a final...our support in Grand Finals has been very quiet

I know what you mean, that was a similar story against a strong hudds defence, with short kick being vital. That was until Cloughie popped up with a money ball to Wellens for that try, so we do have it in us.

What's probably most important is that the team have a good week on the training pitch with Smith and whoever is playing 6 so the ball is moving wide as smoothly as possible.

If we do struggle for penetration out wide, then our forwards will be tasked with not just getting on top, but really smashing them back in order to get a roll on. I can't help think that the extra weight of Sia Soliola will come in very handy this weekend.

is there rumours of Fa'as being back?

If our forwards set the platform for Smith/Eastmond then I think we can do it. Soliola's return has really lifted us in recent, as has The Cunningham factor.

If anyone can get past our defence from 10 metres out, it's you guys. Masters at it.

When Leeds had all that pressure on our line in the second half I was amazed we held out, I doubt we'd be as lucky against you fella's.

I fear its going to come down to a mistake to seperate the two sides, hope thats not the case though!

We have ever chance of beating them on saturday.
But we need every single fan behind the team.
COME ON YOU SAINTS!

Hudds defence was only about a point a game worse than Wigan's this year and we stuck 42 on them.

So take a point off and we'll stick 41 on Wigan. 41-6 would do, sounds familiar too

Yes.

And we have just the man for that

Its Saints pack power vs Wigans back power imo

Whoever does the best at stopping the other teams strength will win it imo. Its going to be a classic battle

Of course we can win on Saturday. We have the talent to win and we have the ability to win. However, so have the Pies. I should think this is probably the hardest to call Grand Final that I can remember. Luck, refs decisions, performance, injuries, errors, team effort ... they will all play a part. But I've no doubt at all that we have what it takes to win it.

The way I see it is that it is all dependant on Saints' long kicking game.

If we kick deep and well, then with our forwards I honestly see it being Saints' to lose. We have all watched Sinfield win the Grand Final on his own against us with a good long kicking game and it is vital we do the same to Wigan on Saturday. If we do, I simply cant see Wigan getting the field position to score enough points on us. I dont buy the whole issue of Saints scoring points on them. We can score against absolutely anybody.

It comes down to our kicking game for me.

They will target our kickers but surely that's what we will do to them also. Having Smith and even Wilkin who is a fair kicker when he needs to be we will not be short of a kicking game. Our forwards I think edge theirs. We have got Soliola back now who missed the previous Wigan games. I hope someone has told him what he needs to do in a derby game. Hope they tell him it's as important to us as State Of Origin.

Insider info for you.

Wigan had five kickers practising today kicking the ball at the crossbar. Tomkins, Piggy, Mickey Mac, Pat and Lockers.

Only Lockers missed, in fact Shaun Wane beat him in the contest.

It IS State of Origin!

If someone has had the wherewithall to tell him that, we're sure in for some massive hits on Saturday night!

So does that mean Shaun Wane will be kicking for you on saturday night then?

Splendid.

I hope so, one can vision Trollkins running across our line, going near Soliola's side, and before you can blink, BOOM! Two yellow boots up for grabs in the Stretford End!

would love that maybe more if it was hes brother

eastmond has done nothing for you since leeds beat you when leon and kyle went of injured, you have every chance of winning i think you have more chance than wigan, you have played many many big games and no what pressure is and how to handle it were as wigan have never been there to no

Is there a half time competition then? Can we have Foz kicking for us?

So?

Can Saints do it?

Nah, we may aswell not bother turning up.