With you guys looking likely to finish 2nd the smart money would be on a wigan saints grand final.

This would however put you in a situation where you could lose 4 grand finals on the trot and at the hands of your rivals.

Is this a big psychological disadvantage hanging over your heads? It must play on the players minds.

Poor effort.

well the way i see it as at leat we got there nad proved that we are the top or second best team in the league, no shame in loosing to the better team on the day

With a full strength side we'd =#FF0000bleep all over Wigan and their overrated goons.

Damn right we would.

No issues beating anyone beside Leeds. We have come up with zero 3 in a row, I am sure that plays on some players minds. Love to see us both go toe to toe with full strength teams, but its not going to happen this year, yes we may go toe to toe in the final, but in no way will we be close to full strenght, and I am sure leeds will be missing 3 or more by the way things are going.

Confident on playing and beating ANY of the rest, its just the Leeds hurdle tha tmakes me gulp and think " brandy " !

you do set yourself up some times !

No, he sets other people up and reels them in.

Has [ishe[/i grown balls?

I think it will be a Leeds vs Wire or Saints final.

Especially after last night.

Leeds is definate.

Then It is who turns the other over. Wire or Saints. I'd be happy with either of those matches. Also if Leeds lose two Finals in a row this year I will smile super hard!

leeds won't make the grand final with just two fit props

I wouldn't write them off.

Agreed 100%.

Well there's one thing you've had more practise than anyone else at Old Trafford so that should go in your favour!!

I agree. A full strength Saints would beat Wigan in the Grand Final, and a Saints team made up of 7 year olds would somehow beat the Wire, again

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Im fully expecting us (Wigan) to make the GF and lose. To lose to Saints will be a bitter pill to swallow but hey its good to be back.

I think saints are easy a match for anyone in sl! they are still a great team imho!

Hamilton is probably right that if Leeds have only 2 fit props we won't win another gf this year! Lucky for us we have 5 fit props plus ian kirke who has proped in the last 3 gf's and Greg beastwood who played as a prop for us this season and proped for a full season for the doggies last season. He has also proped for the kiwis a fair but too including last season. So we have 7 props right now.

no doubt peacock is a monumental loss. but I think we can hack it.

Who are your seven props?

That is the correct attitude to take. Wigan have been a lot better this year than many (including myself) expected. You cannot judge a season on a single game lost in the playoffs or the cup. The bottom line is Wigan have done very well this year and all Wigan fans should hang their heads high regardless of what happens in the playoffs.

I expect that Wigan are back as a force for good (assuming that the rumours I keep on hearing about Sam Tomkins going to Warrington are not true). Which I think is a good thing as only old guys like myself hold any genuine hate for Wigan these days. Most Saints fans are too young to remember Wigan being any good. It is time for Lancashire (and scummy Cheshire) teams to rule the world only again like the good old days.

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That's like me saying if Graham got injured Saints would be OK as we still have 6 props: Hargreaves, Puletua, Maurie, Frodsham, Emmitt, Clough.

The reality is, what's left is massively weaker for Leeds.

If Leeds go on to reach the Grand Final it will be a monumental effort. They've got a cup final to prepare for whilst Saints and Wigan have a week off and they have to qualify from 4th or 5th, and they have to do it without their best player IMO.

At this stage, I'd say Wigan and Saints are favourites to reach the final but Leeds and Warrington are very capable on their day and injuries will obviously play a big part.

If Leeds win at Wembley i can see them taking their foot of the gas for the play-offs having achieved what they really wanted this season,particulary with their injurys, leaving Wigan,Saints and Warrington to fight for the title.

I think warry and leeds being in the cup final next week will take something from them. thats not to say that I don't wish we were there instead.

If we had pryce back together with kyle I would be very confident of beating anybody at any stage. Against leeds in the semi we almost won with no HB's (how come every SL team seems to think: "no HB then no problem we just stichk a few forwards in those roles and we will be OK"?) so we can only get better than that as we showed last week against admittedly the worst bratfud team I have ever seen.