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| Painful as defeat is, especially to Leeds whom we like to stick it up, I am not in my usual grim state of punching the neighbours cat after losing.
We ended the game with no half backs, and thus, no bite. We held out as much as we could in the situation against a very dangerous side. Leon had control while on the field without Arnold, and succumbed to an unfortunate injury.
Paul Clough really is outstanding, and Jonny Lomax matured as a player today.
There are lots of positives to take away from defeat today.
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| Spot on. To hold Leeds to four points with the personnel we ended up with is admirable. Of course a win would have been better (and with a different video ref it may have been) but all credit to the team.
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| I'd agree with you, Ski.
I just felt sorry for them all at the end. There were some cockups - Wello dropping the ball with the tryline begging was probably the outstanding one of the match! - but given all the disruption, the fact that both our halfbacks went out, not to mention our weak bench weakened by one; that Leeds still had a bevvy of internationals in that so-called weak team of theirs, I'm proud that they stood their ground as well as they did. To be beaten only by four shows real heart and effort, and that in itself is a positive.
Although Lomax gifted Leeds a try by letting the ball bounce twice, in all other aspects of the game he is improving. The try he scored was a very good one. He has a good step.
I also think that if we can keep the score against us so low when we really are down to bare bones, we have a real chance even if we get just a few of our players back before the CC semi/playoffs.
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| Quote ="MickeyMo"Spot on. To hold Leeds to four points with the personnel we ended up with is admirable. Of course a win would have been better (and with a different video ref it may have been) but all credit to the team.'"
Just been reading on Sporting Life that Potter has vowed to speak to Cummings about the clarification of the Video ref's decision on the last Leeds try. I don't think he was happy with it either.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"
Although Lomax gifted Leeds a try by letting the ball bounce twice, in all other aspects of the game he is improving. The try he scored was a very good one. He has a good step.'"
It was a good try. I thought he'd bombed that one, turned out he'd took exactly the right option, and the Leeds player that tried to hold him back ended up just releasing him like a coiled spring over the line!
Obviously a lot of work to do in other areas of his game, but it's funny to see how many goal kickers you've got to choose from. It's not that long ago you were having to "settle" for Wellens, now you've got Eastmond, Foster, and now Lomax is doing a decent enough job (alright one of them was a terrible kick, but that seemed an exception).
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"Just been reading on Sporting Life that Potter has vowed to speak to Cummings about the clarification of the Video ref's decision on the last Leeds try. I don't think he was happy with it either.'"
Saw the same on Sky Sports website.
Not just the knock-on, he lays claim to an obstruction.
Could be interesting.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"Saw the same on Sky Sports website.
Not just the knock-on, he lays claim to an obstruction.
Could be interesting.'"
It could be interesting but it will be pointless. Nothing will change. Whether the final try was legitimate or not, Leeds still won, so personally I don't know why he's wasting his breath.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"Saw the same on Sky Sports website.
Not just the knock-on, he lays claim to an obstruction.
Could be interesting.'"
I am sure I overheard Dickie Silverwood mention an obstruction in his instructions.
But, this is all an irrelevance now. We lost the game, and had our chances to win it.
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| Quote ="Ski"I am sure I overheard Dickie Silverwood mention an obstruction in his instructions. '"
Couldn't tell you. Two noisy kids does not make listening closely easy.
At least I miss most of the Eddie, Stevo and Phil "State the obvious" Clarke show. Although Carney does a decent job.
He told me to get a haircut once, when he was the guest of honour at our end of season awards night.
Funny guy.
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| I think the officals got the Bailey penalty wrong he took Roby after he kicked the ball,late tackle on kicker 10 mins sinbin.
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| Quote ="BOYD2"I think the officals got the Bailey penalty wrong he took Roby after he kicked the ball,late tackle on kicker 10 mins sinbin.'"
Not if you're wearing a Leeds shirt at Headingley it isn't. Only the opposition get 10 minutes for that there
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| Quote ="Ski"Painful as defeat is, especially to Leeds whom we like to stick it up, I am not in my usual grim state of punching the neighbours cat after losing.
We ended the game with no half backs, and thus, no bite. We held out as much as we could in the situation against a very dangerous side. Leon had control while on the field without Arnold, and succumbed to an unfortunate injury.
Paul Clough really is outstanding, and Jonny Lomax matured as a player today.
There are lots of positives to take away from defeat today.'"
I'd agree , dissapointed to lose ofc but it was a very solid team performace and if we'd have kept at least one of the HB's on I;d have fancied us to get something out of the game
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| I thought there were two other wrongly awarded tries aside from the last Leeds one. One of those was given straight away if I remember correctly.
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| good effort from all the lads last night and well played leeds. am i the only saints fan who thinks we would have won the game last night if ady gardner wasn't playing. 2high kicks to gardners wing and 2tries for leeds. its the same every week. i wouldn't mind if ady knocked the ball into touch or gave a penalty away, but to just get beaten to the ball time and time again isn't good enough. we only held on against wigan coz jamie foster made a good take late on. lomax and foster would be in every week for me im sick of watch adys poor efforts under the high ball week in week out.
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| Quote ="alter bridge rlfc"good effort from all the lads last night and well played leeds. am i the only saints fan who thinks we would have won the game last night if ady gardner wasn't playing. 2high kicks to gardners wing and 2tries for leeds. its the same every week. i wouldn't mind if ady knocked the ball into touch or gave a penalty away, but to just get beaten to the ball time and time again isn't good enough. we only held on against wigan coz jamie foster made a good take late on. lomax and foster would be in every week for me im sick of watch adys poor efforts under the high ball week in week out.'"
We would have won the game had we not made a forward pass for the try we scored that was subsequently disallowed or had Paul Wellens not dropped the ball with the tryline begging or had Leon not gone off injured or ...
However, we didn't win the game. End of story, really.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"Couldn't tell you. Two noisy kids does not make listening closely easy.
At least I miss most of the Eddie, Stevo and Phil "State the obvious" Clarke show. Although Carney does a decent job.
He told me to get a haircut once, when he was the guest of honour at our end of season awards night.
Funny guy.'"
Caretakers should look smart,he was right.
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| Quote ="Fishsta"Saw the same on Sky Sports website.
Not just the knock-on, he lays claim to an obstruction.
Could be interesting.'"
I don't think it was a knock on but thought it was obstruction without a shadow of doubt.
Can the video ref only check what the ref asks him to look at?
Even though we lost I think it was great effort by saints with all the injuries and losing dixon, eastmond and pryce during the game.
We was in control just after halftime and if pryce stayed on pitch I think we'd have won the game.
How many times do we lose to leeds from kicks! The sooner we get shut of our dodgy wingers the better.
James roby was outstanding again!
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| Quote ="St pete"I don't think it was a knock on but thought it was obstruction without a shadow of doubt.
Can the video ref only check what the ref asks him to look at?
Even though we lost I think it was great effort by saints with all the injuries and losing dixon, eastmond and pryce during the game.
We was in control just after halftime and if pryce stayed on pitch I think we'd have won the game.
How many times do we lose to leeds from kicks! The sooner we get shut of our dodgy wingers the better.
James roby was outstanding again!'"
I'm not keen of defending inept wing play but in this instance I think you may be being a little harsh on Gardner. It was good play by Donald to knock the ball back (he had no itention of going for the catch) and if anything Flannery should not have been sucked into the play ball watching.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"I'm not keen of defending inept wing play but in this instance I think you may be being a little harsh on Gardner. It was good play by Donald to knock the ball back (he had no itention of going for the catch) and if anything Flannery should not have been sucked into the play ball watching.'"
But also, Gardner should have realised that Leeds were doing what they were doing and if he couldn't catch it he should have at least batted it into touch. A good player anticipates what the opposition is planning. Gardner just got sucked in and made a hash of it twice. Once is forgivable; twice is definitely not. He was awful and there was no two ways about that.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"But also, Gardner should have realised that Leeds were doing what they were doing and if he couldn't catch it he should have at least batted it into touch. A good player anticipates what the opposition is planning. Gardner just got sucked in and made a hash of it twice. Once is forgivable; twice is definitely not. He was awful and there was no two ways about that.'"
TBH I'm not big fan of either of our first choice wingers but we are where we are - I honestly dont think it helps when we dont seem to have settled centre wing partnerships but last night wasnt one of his better games.
Sadly the last really 'good' winger we had was Darren Albert and we replaced him with a lazy second row with chip pan grease on his hands and a wooden back but hey thats Saints recruitment policy in the lat few years
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| obstruction don't talk rubbish senior did nothing wrong he stood his ground which your allowed to do and lomax pulled him down trying to make it look like obstruction.your all moaning about injuries but when we have them u say we are making excuses i think you forgotten we have 7 players missing that was not our strongest team either.you better start making some new excuses for when where both full strength for the semi final
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| Quote ="batesylufc"obstruction don't talk rubbish senior did nothing wrong he stood his ground which your allowed to do and lomax pulled him down trying to make it look like obstruction.your all moaning about injuries but when we have them u say we are making excuses i think you forgotten we have 7 players missing that was not our strongest team either.you better start making some new excuses for when where both full strength for the semi final'"
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"I'm not keen of defending inept wing play but in this instance I think you may be being a little harsh on Gardner. It was good play by Donald to knock the ball back (he had no itention of going for the catch) and if anything Flannery should not have been sucked into the play ball watching.'"
To be honest mate I think Gardner was at fault, he should be taking them kicks.
I do however think we should have been up quicker on sinfield but everyone stood and watched him. Wilkin if playing would have put pressure on the Leeds kicker.
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| From a Leeds perspective I thought your bench really did hold up pretty well considering it was pretty lightweight in the "names" department and you should take a lot of credit for the way you played once Eastmond and Pryce had been crocked.
I am pretty sure once both squads are bolstered by a few returns from injury the semi final will be a totally differend game..........though am sure it will be just as close.
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| Quote ="batesylufc"obstruction don't talk rubbish senior did nothing wrong he stood his ground which your allowed to do and lomax pulled him down trying to make it look like obstruction.your all moaning about injuries but when we have them u say we are making excuses i think you forgotten we have 7 players missing that was not our strongest team either.you better start making some new excuses for when where both full strength for the semi final'"
Welcome to the standard of education in Leeds.
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