The problems:

Potter - Clueless, one dimensional, crap player management, ideas (like playing Roby on the wing for an hour)

Game plan - Boring, unexpansive rugby. Good for Bradford when they had a massive pack early SL years, good for catalans in recent years with there big pack.

Attack - do we actually practice any attacking plays in training?

Defence - players looked last night like they have forgot how to tackle.

Pryce - looks like he just wants to turn up and be paid. Not hungry anymore.

Flannery - Not good enough simple as, should be a squad player at best.

Soliola - Not a centre in a million years.

Graham - Possibly the best prop in the world, obviously doesn't like Potter and doesn't look like he's enjoying it anymore. Same goes for a number of players.

Fitness - Potter sems to have tried to bulk everyone up to play his crap tactics... resulting in slower players with less skill. If you beefed Floyd Mayweather up to be a heavyweight boxer would he be any good? No he would be e.

Pace - Our back line has none. Our fastest player is our scrum half.

Aging players - Cunningham and Gidley have been brilliant but have they still got it?

3 hookers - will never work.

Eastmond - too much pressure on him to produce something special because our other ideas are crap.

I don't pretend to be a good coach/manager, or even an average one but even I can see something needs changing!

I would get rid of Potter and get Millward and Sculthorpe as a joint effort. I much prefer the 'it doesn't matter how many they score, we will score more' attitude of Millward than the 'drive, drive, drive, drive, drive, kick' attitude of Potter. Scully will make a great coach and this could be the chance for him to learn. He obviously loves the club and wants us to win.

Soliola should be moved to second row where he can naturally increase the size of the pack without just making players fatter. Pryce should be put at centre. This will give us more pace in the backs, plus he's not cuuting the mustard at SO. If he doesn't like it tell him to do one. Wheeler should get the SO spot. It doesn't matter that it measn it would be a very inexperienced half back pairing, both of them are confident and very good players. Wheeler can probably organise better than Pryce and lets be honest he can't do a worse job can he.

Lomax should come onto the wing as he is very fast, can catch and needs game time without the pressure of FB. Plus he's just better than Gardner.

If Cunningham doesn't want to retire a bit early then Roby needs to play LF and let Cunningham/Moore do the job at hooker. Trying to fit them all into hooker is silly. Flannery should be dropped and used only as cover, same with Hargreaves.

My team would be:

Wellens
Lomax
Gidley
Pryce
Meli
Wheeler
Eastmond
Graham
Cunningham
Fozzard
Soliola
Wilkin
Roby

Moore
Fa'asavalu
Puletua
Clough

This is only my opinion but I think we have big issues and they need sorting quick because £19 is a lot to pay to watch such boring rugby.

Just sack this clown of a coach we have. Sorted.

You lost me there.

Good luck getting that team, even when things go badly, Potter never mixes things up a bit.

I agree totally with these bits

No it isn't. You still need to replace Long and Sculthorpe. KFC is old and knackered, Wellens is past his best and Pryce has lost it (should be back in the centres either permanently or til he sorts his head out).

Eastmond is fantastic individually, but needs an organiser at his side. He can't organise a p155 up in a brewery.

Sadly, what was Saints' strength may, if they're not careful, become their undoing. Players can't carry on forever, and what's happening to you (if not this season, it will when KFC retires) is exactly what happened to Wigan five years ago. Luckily, we'd not as far to fall at the time.

His brother is exactly the same.

and flannery what does he bring to a game and faasavalu who has not had a good game since 2006 please go back to the dark side and take pryce with you none of you would be missed

Pryce just doesn't look interested anymore, he seems to have taken a leaf out of his brothers book. Stick him on the wing or in the centres till his contract runs out.

that because he wants go to kick and clap

One solution could be to go and watch another team, or maybe just support your team that lost 1 game...

The sad fact of the playoffs is that you can lose 7-10 games a season and still reach the grand final..I bet Brian Mc is cacking his pants after Friday's loss!

Spot on
I agree with all that

Id go for

Wellens
Lomax
Gidley
Wheeler
Meli (if he comes back)
Wilkin
Eastmond
Graham
Cunningham
Puletua
Soliola
Clough
Roby

Moore
Fa'asavalu
Fozzard
Pryce (He needs to be dropped asap)

I also think Cunningham needs take on the line as much as possible before Moore comes on.
Even if it means he does shorter spells

We all know no that this is going to be a long hard season and at some time Potter is going to get the sack!! Lets get behind the boys and not boo them!!









My team would be

Wellens..Pryce..Gidley..Eastmond..Meli..Wheeler..Wilkin

Fozzard..K.C...Graham..Soliola..Clough..Flannery

Roby..Puletua..Hargreaves..Fa'asavalu

We need creativity at half back and Wheeler and Wilkin have it...let Eastmond create havock down the Centre and we dont half miss Meli when he doesn't play.....for his drives!! Come on boys we have got till September to get it going!!

I dint really see what the fascination is with people wanting roby at 13. He isn't big enough for a running game and doesn't have the natual skills to be a creative 13. Either we go with KC and Roby or KC and Moore. No place for 3 hookers in the squad.

I don't blame roby but he is as effective as wellens at centre and KC in the second row, both will do a job but you aren't playing to their strengths.

Problem:- Spent Force

Solution:- Support the Wire

To the bold bit - what was the alternative?

Leon pryce has, at a guess, played a hundred games for Bradford on the wing. He wasn't doing anything at SO so why not put him on the wing and play either Moore or roby at stand off. Both have played there a number of times before. Roby is one player who couldve dragged us back into the game.

Eastmond-Pryce seems on the face of it not to be the ideal halfback combination. After all the fuss about Eastmond playing for England last year, its a bit unfair to criticise him too much, but if he wants to be a scrum half he needs to develop his passing and organising game substantially.

problem is they are both running half backs, you need one running and one passing half back ideally

Why can't you do both? Just because you are nippy doesn't mean you can't pass.

I don't get this viewpoint of Eastmond not having a passing game, he does. He's got a better passing game than Long now, he's also got a better kicking game than Long did at his age. What he doesn't have is the experience to make the right choice at the right time. He was always going to be a step down from Long in his first season as first choice seven, anyone who expected different is either naive or a fool. He still needs to learn the game, no matter how talented he is.

He would benefit from having a more experienced organising half back next to him though, just as Long did from Martyn. But that doesn't mean he's only a runner.

I'd take Millward over Potter any day of the week, at least I wouldnt be bored watching us.

Yeah, those Wigan fans were mightily entertained when he nearly took them down.

A man of the time, and as great a time as it was, the game has moved on. We'd be creamed playing like that now.

I don't think saints play with the same swagger and belief they used to do.

I think that's the fallout from losing 3 grand finals on the trot. Sean long said after last years grand final ''it's demoralising you know, you start to doubt yourself'', so if sean long is thinking that with the amount he's won what were some of the others in the team thinking?

Long is now in a total new team with new surroundings, but the rest of the saints team are still there.

Eastmond and pryce were both players who could play off longs nouse, but now they are needed to provide that and they are not players who will do that.

You'll be up there but i don't see you making any finals this year lads.

You're assuming that Millward would have us playing like that now? He may still do flair and off the cuff but also defence.