Just for us who have an ounce of positivity left in our team.

Anybody think we will turn it on and reach the GF again?

Me.

Me. A Leeds fan.

That game last week proved there is virtually nothing between the two sides.

I can't see Huddersfield or Hull KR or the rest having the experience to deal with a game of that intensity to be honest. They aren't used to the level that playoff football at the highest level brings.

I still think it will be a Leeds - Saints GF, and who's to say the tables won't be turned this year?

One positive for the St helens team tonight is that town is waiting for them. They'll be in Panamas for 12.

What. You mean like a challenge cup semi final ?

Challenge cup semi finals in front of 12,000 people in the middle of summer and Grand Final playoffs in the grip of winter in front of close to 20,000 people are completely different things. As are the prizes on offer.

We wont get 9K at Knowlsey Road next week.

Find another thread for your negativity please



Maurie played well tonight, hand off is like a piston!

Nope. Not a hope.

(You shouldn't start your positive thread with a question like that if you want only positive replies!!

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Ironic that a topic containing the word "Positive" draws such attention from possibly the most pessimistic person(?) west of the pennines

You are saddened=red[size=200![/size and i claim my £5!

Again, someone else missed the ! out. If this keeps happening there will be a trail of bodies around St Helens with a ! carved into them.

The eternal optimist here


That was an experimental squad, kyle showed that he is a burrow clone, without the nose. lomax started to have a shocker, but came back and caught a high ball runiing nackwards, which shows some promise.
And for all those who have slated Tony P, well

because he was awesome tonight, massive go forward. with maurie getting match fitness and jammer back we#ll be reet cocker

How does that work!



Sounds Painful to me

You are, as well, aren't you? I don't think I've ever read a pessimistic post from you. How do you do it? My last sliver of hope slipped away tonight. I just couldn't hold on to it at all. It was too slithery for me to keep my grip.

i do it by growing up in the eighties, getting ritual humiliation by wigan throughout my childhood, getting laughed at when we lost 27-0 at wembley, but this has taught me to appreiciate the fabulous team we have now and anyone who thinks second in the league and a cup semi final is failure, may i direct you to our friends over the lump

I remember saying things like that in 2003/2004!

The writing was on the wall for us at that time as well!

I also remember saying in a couple of threads that when a period of dominance ends in nearly every sport the Team & It's supporters are also the last ones to see it.

I just hope you're wrong, but there are uncertain times ahead. Hopefully saints will learn from wigan's mistakes

I think we had a few more problems than you guys do and TBH the mindset of the fans is slightly different (Although I'm beginning to doubt that seeing some of the reactions of your guys) which means I don't think you will drop as far as we did.

However

Once you drop that 10-15% back to the Pack you just can't turn it around overnight and become as dominant again.
Existing contracts,SC, Lack of income, other attractive options for coaches/Players, focussing on a New stadium etc all play a part in having to look for a more long term solution to the problem than is ideal.

A lot of our fans have struggled to accept that, will yours?

note to self, must remember to log T-other half out first

By a lot of reactions that can be seen here and heard around the ground then nope I think a lot of them won't.

Last night was about the performances we have had this season when we have had the same squad - the same squad, that is - which took us to silverware last season and which won 20 games on the trot. We fans were expecting the slide into mediocrity next season with the loss of Longy, Gilly and possibly Keiron. Not this season. The demise has been a shock because it has come so very early to a team which fundamentally hasn't changed. It's like watching a totally different Saints to the one Anderson coached to success the previous three seasons. Yet it's the same team!

with the losses from the squad last year, i'd have been happy with 4th reasonably. Longy, KC, Gidley, and gilly all well over 30, wello slowing down, etc, etc. yet 2nd in the league and a cup semi with the most horrendous injury list i've seen in my 31 yrs