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| With this move set to be completed this week with the wod of cash Wigan with be giving Warrington "apparently" could this spell a move for Jamie Lyon? Hope not...
Plus what is Gleeson thinking?!?
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| Quote ="SaintStevo88"With this move set to be completed this week with the wod of cash Wigan with be giving Warrington "apparently" could this spell a move for Jamie Lyon? Hope not...
Plus what is Gleeson thinking?!?'"
I can't see them being able to fit Jamie into their salary cap. The Wire, including Gleese must be up to the limit. No doubt they are going to fire Reardon, but is Gleeson really paid so much that the additions of Mathers and Goulding would leave room for Lyon? I'm very much doubting that.
I can't see what Warrington want from the deal, neither Goulding nor Mathers are good enough for them if they really want to improve. Isn't Gleeson out of contract anyway at the end of the season?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I can't see them being able to fit Jamie into their salary cap. The Wire, including Gleese must be up to the limit. No doubt they are going to fire Reardon, but is Gleeson really paid so much that the additions of Mathers and Goulding would leave room for Lyon? I'm very much doubting that.
I can't see what Warrington want from the deal, neither Goulding nor Mathers are good enough for them if they really want to improve. Isn't Gleeson out of contract anyway at the end of the season?'"
Correct, hence why Warrington are cashing in now. Heard in some circles Goulding is only loan until the end of the season? Not sure how true
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| Quote ="SaintStevo88"With this move set to be completed this week with the wod of cash Wigan with be giving Warrington "apparently" could this spell a move for Jamie Lyon? Hope not... Plus what is Gleeson thinking?!?'" he's thinking only one club are going to give me a good wage as he's had non of the nrl offers he was after. What are warrington thinking? Mathers??? Mr king will be happy. Mind you tony smith got the best out of him at leeds. I still doubt this will happen though, wigans chairman is very tight and wont pay a fee.
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| Quote ="SaintStevo88"Correct, hence why Warrington are cashing in now. Heard in some circles Goulding is only loan until the end of the season? Not sure how true'"
Cashing in? There is no way Wigan under Leneghan would throw money at a 29 alcoholic who they could get for nothing at the end of the season?
The deal as it is being reported is stupid. Goulding is your stereotypical SL youngster, who will play NL1 for a year or two and then drop down or disappear altogether. Mathers is a formerly half decent but always flawed player who has massive question marks over his fitness. Neither are players Warrington should look at, even if they are available for nothing.
If Wigan are paying money as well as releasing two players they are insane. Even with Gleeson and Jamie Lyon they wouldn't win anything this season, so paying money on top of the two players seems ridiculous to me.
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| Quote ="SaintStevo88"Correct, hence why Warrington are cashing in now. Heard in some circles Goulding is only loan until the end of the season? Not sure how true'"
No he isn't.
He is contracted to 2010 but he said he wanted to leave to go to Aus at the end of this year.
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| Gleeson's never wanted to play for us. You only need to look at his sorry mush in his initial "unveiling" to know that. He gave us one good year which was the year he signed, and since his form has dipped alarmingly other than the occasional flash of brilliance.
I dont want Mathers or Phelps or Goulding but will trust Tony Smith over my judgement.
Do you want Vinnie Anderson back btw?
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| Feel sorry for gleese, he made a big mistake and paid for it, his mistake has pretty much goosed his RL career. He has had to sit back and watch his mates win medal after medal, reach final after final, and I am sure would even have liked to have been in the position to pick up a couple of GF loser medals to. Only thing he retained was very good money, and probably will still do so with a nothing move to the goons.
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| Quote ="Supreme Sydney2002"Feel sorry for gleese, he made a big mistake and paid for it, his mistake has pretty much goosed his RL career. He has had to sit back and watch his mates win medal after medal, reach final after final, and I am sure would even have liked to have been in the position to pick up a couple of GF loser medals to. Only thing he retained was very good money, and probably will still do so with a nothing move to the goons.
Talneted player, one mistake and BOOM !'"
That's a good point - Sometimes I forget he's basically spent the last 5 years trying to resurect his career!!
1 bone headed decision basically condemed him to a career of making of the numbers instead of challenging for medals. I'm sure if he had the chance again he would't have walked in the beeting shop that day!
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| Gleeson to Wigan in exchange for 2 nobodies??
Evidence if ever there was, that Gleeson is a bad influence in the dressing room, probably due to his "recreational activities". Oh well, one ring leader dropped and the other on the way out. Only took Warrington 5 years to realise the problem!
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| I remember when we sold him there was uproar. And when he was replaced by a little pig farmer who had bottled it and couldnt handle the pressure of the NRL we were not happy. They he played a few games and gleeson was forgotten.
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| Quote ="SaintStevo88"Correct, hence why Warrington are cashing in now. Heard in some circles Goulding is only loan until the end of the season? Not sure how true'"
Incorrect, November 2010.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I remember when we sold him there was uproar. And when he was replaced by a little pig farmer who had bottled it and couldnt handle the pressure of the NRL we were not happy. They he played a few games and [size=150gleeson[/size was forgotten.'"
Who?
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| Gleeson will be an excellent aquisition for Wigan. Noone knows where the line is better than Martin Gleeson...
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"Gleeson will be an excellent aquisition for Wigan. Noone knows where the line is better than Martin Gleeson...'"
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"Gleeson will be an excellent aquisition for Wigan. Noone knows where the line is better than Martin Gleeson...'"
Wahey!
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| Why would Lyon want to go to Warrington ?
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| Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"Why would Lyon want to go to Warrington ?'"
Why would anyone?
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| Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"Why would Lyon want to go to Warrington ?'"
Fast direct train to London, quite handy.
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| Quote ="Supreme Sydney2002"Fast direct train to London, quite handy.'"
Lyon in "to play for Harlequins"shocker!
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They will need a full strength team, its York City Knights they are up against. Could be a shock on the cards here, wire could win !
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| On the Sky Anytime edition of Boots & All, Barrie Mac seemed to imply it was a done deal. He also mentioned Danny Brough moving to the cherry & whites greatest rivals which I took to mean you guys. Thought nothing of it but if Pryce is looking at a custodial sentence as hinted at by the judge, then you'd need a new half back. Anyone on here heard anything?
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| Quote ="Dirty Pretty Thing"On the Sky Anytime edition of Boots & All, Barrie Mac seemed to imply it was a done deal. He also mentioned Danny Brough moving to the cherry & whites greatest rivals which I took to mean you guys. Thought nothing of it but if Pryce is looking at a custodial sentence as hinted at by the judge, then you'd need a new half back. Anyone on here heard anything?'"
The Danny Brough rumours have been there for about two years. Is he good enough to replace Slong? Does that massive vote of no confidence in the academy players mean they aren't as useful as we all seem to think, Esatmond in particular? Or is Brough being thought of as a stop gap?
I don't think people like that get things wrong too often, if he mentions it, it would mean they are trying to make it happen, whether it actually works out or not. Gleeson is a decent signing for the Pies, but surely about 4 years too late? They should have organised a triple pronged deal to sign him when we cut him loose.
So anyone with an ear to the Saints camp want to tell me what the plans are? Is Longy retiring with KC at the end of the season?
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| without wanting to get into the whole issue that we cant talk about, we arent going to be loosing players long term unless the rfl delist them.
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