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| Stolen from the bingo callers board.
Personally, I dont think they will, but I think the gap will be a lot closer this season.
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| I don't think so but we won't rack 40 points up like in previous seconds.
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| Maundy Thursday
It will be the start of silly season and the return of the mighty Wigoon rugby. Only for us to meet in the Grand Final and for us to exorcise our demons.
I wonder what odds I could get on that
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| I think we might beat you on Maunday thursday at home.
If we dont beat you during the super league weekly rounds then I think we would beat you in the play-offs.
Either that or we will just get battered again, and have a decent game against you in one of the games, but still get beat.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"I think we might beat you on Maunday thursday at home.
If we dont beat you during the super league weekly rounds then I think we would beat you in the play-offs.
Either that or we will just get battered again, and have a decent game against you in one of the games, but still get beat.'" That's right chief, cover all bases.
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| Quote ="jonnythesaint"That's right chief, cover all bases.'"
Thanks, I think I did a pretty good job.
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| Yes they will.
Next.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yes they will.
Next.'"
No they wont.
Next stupid question is will they ever learn that signing aussies in positions they have talented youngsters in will get them knowwhere?
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| No more chance of Dire beating us.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"No they wont.
Next stupid question is will they ever learn that signing aussies in positions they have talented youngsters in will get them knowwhere?'"
Yes they will, and playing old, past it (some say never had it) players will get Saints NOWHERE.
In what positions do you think we have talented young players who can replace the Aussies at Wigan.
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| Too early to tell but the chances must be better than last year.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yes they will, and playing old, past it (some say never had it) players will get Saints NOWHERE.
In what positions do you think we have talented young players who can replace the Aussies at Wigan.'"
Half back for me, I'd put Tomkins in before Leuleuai, and possibly second row with Mossop over Bailey.
And, yes it's quite possible that they will beat us this year. Just as it's possible that any other team in SL will beat us this year.
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| We will beat Wigan in all games played and score at 50 in at least 1 of them.
Now trot along to your own board as this is for Saints fans
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| we will beat wigan in every game until the last of the regular season when we already have the hubcap wrapped up and we field a weeknd team. Wigan will then claim it is a return to their great years. I could have copied and pasted this from 2006 , and it will be the same this year. When will wigan realise that buying in journeymen from oz will get them nowhere!
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"we will beat wigan in every game until the last of the regular season when we already have the hubcap wrapped up and we field a weeknd team. Wigan will then claim it is a return to their great years. I could have copied and pasted this from 2006
, and it will be the same this year. When will wigan realise that buying in journeymen from oz will get them nowhere!
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yup same old.
Leeds saints gf again as well
leeds win
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Half back for me, I'd put Tomkins in before Leuleuai, and possibly second row with Mossop over Bailey.
And, yes it's quite possible that they will beat us this year. Just as it's possible that any other team in SL will beat us this year.'"
Sam's not ready yet but will get 10 -15 games this season. He wil probably take over from Smith next season.
Mossop is an interesting one.
Wigan are well blessed with back row forward, in fact probably the strongest in the league, with Hock, O'Loughlin, Bailey, Hansen, Joel Tomkins and Mossop.
Add to that Farrell and I don't know how Noble will pick his four per game. (3 + 1 on the bench)
I suspect this will be Baileys last season. Salford have asked if they can take Mossop on loan for a season, which for me would be a really good option for both parties.
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| Quote ="Snake Eater"yup same old.
Leeds saints gf again as well
leeds win
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Third time's a charm, we'll cane your stupid Yorkshire backsides this year, t'is written in the stars!
[size=59That or I'm drunk[/size
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| Quote ="MSH"Third time's a charm, we'll cane your stupid Yorkshire backsides this year, t'is written in the stars!
[size=59That or I'm drunk[/size'"
hubcap stealing chav , oaf, hick .
you are like your players poor losers from a ridiculous little town
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Half back for me, I'd put Tomkins in before Leuleuai, and possibly second row with Mossop over Bailey.
And, yes it's quite possible that they will beat us this year. Just as it's possible that any other team in SL will beat us this year.'"
We didn't have those youngsters ready for the 1st team when we signed those Overseas Nobodies (Sorry World Cup Winner & An Australian Tourist).
Tomkins will play a Lot of 1st team rugby this season, some at the expense of Leaulia some in place of Smith.
Mossop over Bailey, For the last 2 season's your having a laugh, For this season Never, By this time next year when Bailey's contracts up If we do sign a different 2nd row for overseas and Mossop or whomever i.e Tomkins doesnt get a game then maybe I would agree.
Anyway, How's that overseas 2nd rower you got for this season? Won't he be 30 this year? Haven't you signed him for 3 seasons?
Looking forward to seeing that overseas centre you have retained for another season (Or is it 2?) instead of Ste Tyrer this year! Won't he be 32 this year?
That Flannery's been excpetional for you guys and not to forget Mr Meli! God I wish we had those 2 !
Not to mention 3 or 4 British 30/31/32 year old's!
Just checked what I would say our 1st 17 would be IMO and found 7 Overseas players, In Saints 1st 17 I Found 6.
You would have thought that with Numerous years of unparalelled success you would have been able to discard with a lot more of the overseas players by now?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"We didn't have those youngsters ready for the 1st team when we signed those Overseas Nobodies (Sorry World Cup Winner & An Australian Tourist).
Tomkins will play a Lot of 1st team rugby this season, some at the expense of Leaulia some in place of Smith.
Mossop over Bailey, For the last 2 season's your having a laugh, For this season Never, By this time next year when Bailey's contracts up If we do sign a different 2nd row for overseas and Mossop or whomever i.e Tomkins doesnt get a game then maybe I would agree.
Anyway, How's that overseas 2nd rower you got for this season? Won't he be 30 this year? Haven't you signed him for 3 seasons?
Looking forward to seeing that overseas centre you have retained for another season (Or is it 2?) instead of Ste Tyrer this year! Won't he be 32 this year?
That Flannery's been excpetional for you guys and not to forget Mr Meli! God I wish we had those 2 !
Not to mention 3 or 4 British 30/31/32 year old's!
Just checked what I would say our 1st 17 would be IMO and found 7 Overseas players, In Saints 1st 17 I Found 6.
You would have thought that with Numerous years of unparalelled success you would have been able to discard with a lot more of the overseas players by now?'"
Your good mate, as I know from our discussions in Australia! But I think there's one or two areas you've cheated in a bit here.
1.) When you signed Leulai you weren't to know he'd be a World Cup winner, If memory serves he wasn't even a New Zealand regular.
2.) Calling Phil Bailey an Aussie Tourist after 2 Caps is a bit generous!
Yes we have retained Gidley for another year, but As im sure you'll agree he was excellent last year, and without him, Gardner was exposed for what he is, in the World Cup. I would much sooner Keep him than play Tyrer.
I have checked your 1st 17 and you have 8 Overseas players, just because Pat Richards played for Ireland doesn't make him Home based We have 6.
Yes we may have 3 Over 30's players, however as we discussed One of them is still the best British half back that we can offer, whilst Keiron IMO is still the best hooker around. Yes they are getting on, but at the moment we are discussing this season, and I think both these guys will still do well.
As for Meli, Please dont mention him, Im hoping the Visa people may forget about him
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| I dont think Wigan will close the gap dramatically. The first choice 13 looks similar if not a bit weaker than last years with Barretts departure.
If we lose key players they may beat us at the JJB - we owe them a walloping at murrayfield.
Wigans current transfer policy reminds me of the scattergun approach saints had for years when trying to match wigan.
Instead Wigan have let a talent in a key position go in barrett and what have they replaced him with another gamble in smith or blood Tomkins. At the same time your other half has shown his ability at hooker.
It was only when saints focused the money of 3/4 players and made the newlove and later sculthorpe transfers that we raised our game.
I`m not sure saints and bradford initially matched wigan as went past them as wigan fell backwards.
Wigan have always produced good juniors but its far easier to blood them into a winning team or at least around better players.
Regardless of how deep a squad is you can only put 13 on the field and 4 on the bench.
Saints have definatly started to draw the purse strings and the longer the stadium is delayed the more liklihood will be we slip down the league.
But I honestly believe that if wigan start matching saints this year then other teams will be ahead of both clubs.
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| Quote ="JLM23"Your good mate, as I know from our discussions in Australia! But I think there's one or two areas you've cheated in a bit here.
1.) When you signed Leulai you weren't to know he'd be a World Cup winner, If memory serves he wasn't even a New Zealand regular.
I was responding to someone who was saying that signing Leaulia (Who was already a NZ International) was Halting the development of Sam Tomkins. When we signed him Tomkins was 16! At the end of his 3 year contract Tomkins will have just turned 20, thats hardly halting his development is it? Plus it was under another administration!
2.) Calling Phil Bailey an Aussie Tourist after 2 Caps is a bit generous!
But he is/was - ANd plenty people forget our right side centre shipped in around 40 tries the season before Bailey arrived, They didnt do after he came! I would have persisted with Bailey at starting centre last year bringing Goulding on 25 mins into the game and utilising Bailey/J Tomkins/O'Loughlin/Hock as the back 3.
I agree if Bailey was offered a similar contract after his current deal expires then it would be worrying but yourselves have gone out and bought an Overseas player who will be 30 this year? on a 3year contract!
My point is at times Needs Must!
Yes we have retained Gidley for another year, but As im sure you'll agree he was excellent last year, and without him, Gardner was exposed for what he is, in the World Cup. I would much sooner Keep him than play Tyrer.
So Would I if I wee a Saints Fan as Tyrers below SL Average at best IMO, But again the point I am trying to make is that whilst we are criticised for stopping the development of Young British Talent Saints havent done a great deal different, when the 30+ somethings pack in what will happen then?
I have checked your 1st 17 and you have 8 Overseas players, just because Pat Richards played for Ireland doesn't make him Home based
We have 6.
I counted Pat, I didnt count Hansen as He's been here since he was born I think???
Yes we may have 3 Over 30's players, however as we discussed One of them is still the best British half back that we can offer, whilst Keiron IMO is still the best hooker around. Yes they are getting on, but at the moment we are discussing this season, and I think both these guys will still do well.
Totally agree with you on the Long thing (As you know from our drunken discussion on the Gold Coast) !
As for KFC yes I agree he will leave a massive Hole (In more ways than one
) when he leaves and finding a "Starting" 9 is going to be hard to do. We may have different views on Roby's progression on this matter.
As for Meli, Please dont mention him, Im hoping the Visa people may forget about him
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Why not play a youngster there instead then?
Wigans 1st 17 IMO - average age 25
Saints 1st 17 IMO - average age over 27
I would also ask that as Saints have been undoubtably the most successful team of the last 4/5 seasons is it not worrying that your Youth development doesnt seem that much better than ours considering Saints have had far more opportunities to utilise tham as you have been in a position of strength? Whilst we have had to stave off the Relegation and practically Fight for every point we have Won in the last 3 years?
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| Nah, I'm confident we will beat the Bingo Wings Pa'aleasina and Co all season long, but I have a funny feeling we will meet in the Challenge Cup in the early rounds.
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| It seems alot more possible this year than in previous years.
A lot of humble pie could be dealt out this season to people on here.
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| to Answer rogues with Amos Roberts , cameron phelps and Pat Richards at the club how the hell is a player like Ainscough (who from what I hear is a damned good young player) going to get the game time he will need to develop?
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