Who knows, it's still potential at this stage. But he's shown enough of it in his SL appearances to be a 1st team choice for me.

From what I've seen I'd have him at Wigan, his only fault is his injury record. If Rogues said it then Ive no reason to doubt him, I've got a lot of respect for Brian and his views on the game.




Although I didn't see much of Wheeler play last year (neither did you Saints fans

). I am aware of what a good player he is, I'm just still under the impression that he's a standoff as opposed to a centre. It's just a case of getting him fit and slim (according to a few on here).

Joel got shown up In the four nations,he's a flat track bully.
Hoffmans a workhorse who had a very ordinary last season.
Curly top puts a shift in when tackling, inconsistant with ball In hand can be good.
Nowhere near as good as you think they are.

Rogues doesn't rate him though, it's people at the club that do






He started at stand off, may end up back there, but a couple of years at centre won't so him any harm. Him getting fit and staying fit would be a start though

Spot on, but I still think I'm right but you know if I'm wrong I will hold my hand up.
It is true that Wigan were looking to sign him last year (for the 2010 season).

Anyway we've just signed another Wigan based halfback from another Superlerleague club close by, so let's see how he goes.

Ratchford?

Who?

Rogues, leaving everyone hanging tut tut.

It's Scott Leatherbarrow from Wire

Not Scott Leatherbarrow from Wire?!?!

[iThe[/i Scott Leatherbarrow from Wire?

The Scott Leatherbarrow from Wigan who played for Wire.
That's him.

I'd definitely play Soliola in the pack, but we should not be going into a full season with Flannery as our centre. He did a decent job for a while, but he got found out against centres with good feet and a bit of pace. King (I think) had him on toast. My first choice would be Wheeler. If/when he's injured I'd put Soliola at centre, put Puletua at second row and use Clough as a prop from the bench.

I pretty much agree.
Did we decide what Armstrong was doing this year - is he on dual registration? Leigh rings a bell, but I may have dreamt it.

Aye, I think he is indeed at Leigh on dual reg.

Good. Given his try scoring feats last year in the U20s, some tougher footy playing 1st team for Leigh should let us know whether he's up to it in other areas and hopefully kick on. If he makes a fist of it there and Wheeler continues to struggle for fitness, it could well be a similar story as Emmit last year - boy can't get 1st team action, goes on loan to Leigh, gets recalled and turns out to be better than what we have, contract expires, signs for cas......oh wait.

It will be interesting to see both his and Frodsham's progress this year. I'll try and take in the Leigh v Widnes games if they're both playing.

the rest of the league may as well not turn up in 2011 now

Actually I think it's quite a good idea to have back up for the half backs, don't you?

Even at U20 level.

I agree, flannery did a awesome job when he played centre but IMO he ain't a fulltime solution to our centre a problem. He does ok with the ball in hand while centre but looks out of his depth when he comes up against a centre with good feet like gleeson took him apart at the DW.

I'd go with wheeler to start.

I agree to a degree if he has lost some weight and the I'm on £75K attitude.

Given we have Meli for 2 years I think he looks the best bet at centre,
(Still can't believe he has been signed).

However that leaves the problem of a lack of wingers.

In my opinion we still need a centre, and a forward, so I'd go with :
Wellens
Gardner
Shenton
Meli
Foster
Pryce
Eastmond
Perry
Moore
Graham
Soliola
Flannary
Wilkin

Roby
Clough
LMS
Puletua

Wellens
Gardner
Shenton
Wheeler
Meli
Pryce
Eastmond
Perry
Roby
Graham
Soliola
Flannery
Wilkin

Bench

Moore
Clough
LMS
Puletua

Stupid idea. It would be better to have no back up and use a combination of 2nd rowers / utility players so you have an excuse when you don't win anything

Its great, as long as they don't get caught with a pocket full of rainbows at a major club event.

Hmmm any chance of a pm.