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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Interesting. In all the hoopla I haven't heard any assessments in how wheeler went - the stats don't show him doing much (2 errors too)'"
He just looked anonymous. Didn't miss any tackles though, which is an advantage. Might he be better in the centre spot?
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I'd like to see what McDonnell can bring bearing in mind we are very short on attacking threats now. Wello had a poor game last night but given we can't loan anyone now and clearly we aren't going to be blooding any young halves this season, it looks like Wello will take one halfback berth until one of Hohaia or Wilkin return (Wilkin may well be out for the season apparently).
Turner did well last night. He can kick goals so maybe he has something to offer on the field too (I know the two aren't the same but hey, desperate times!). Wheeler's attempts at kicking last night were awful. To get to 26 as a halfback and not be able to kick is really poor IMO. But anyway, I'd give Turner a go as he really took the game by the scruff of the neck I thought.
If Wello can marshal some kind of attack, in tandem with Robes, and Turner take more of a running role then maybe that might be a start? Who knows? I sure don't! All I know is what I saw last night and I thought Turner offered more than Wheeler.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"He just looked anonymous. Didn't miss any tackles though, which is an advantage. Might he be better in the centre spot?
I'd like to see what McDonnell can bring bearing in mind we are very short on attacking threats now. Wello had a poor game last night but given we can't loan anyone now and clearly we aren't going to be blooding any young halves this season, it looks like Wello will take one halfback berth until one of Hohaia or Wilkin return (Wilkin may well be out for the season apparently).
Turner did well last night. He can kick goals so maybe he has something to offer on the field too (I know the two aren't the same but hey, desperate times!). Wheeler's attempts at kicking last night were awful. To get to 26 as a halfback and not be able to kick is really poor IMO. But anyway, I'd give Turner a go as he really took the game by the scruff of the neck I thought.
If Wello can marshal some kind of attack, in tandem with Robes, and Turner take more of a running role then maybe that might be a start? Who knows? I sure don't! All I know is what I saw last night and I thought Turner offered more than Wheeler.'"
Iirc Turner did a bit of kicking for us whilst in this position last year - dropouts in particular I think. He got some great length on them too, I'm surprised it hasn't been used since! Until Wilkin or Hohaia is back, we are really struggling for kickers.
I'd be tempted to bring McDonnell in next week to allow Wellens to have a proper break with the week off the week after, and I'd keep Turner in the centres for now, he has a great combo with Makinson, and we need as many threats as possible out wide who can make something out of nothing because when the ball gets to them, it won't have committed defenders.
What that leaves though, is though is the only option of throwing a kid in and Wheeler ...
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| Rest Wilkin for Hull FC???
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Rest him on the CC weekend, or against Wakey, but not Hull FC
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Rest Wilkin for Hull FC???
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Rest him on the CC weekend, or against Wakey, but not Hull FC'"
Wilkin is out injured. It is quite likely he won't be back during the regular season.
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| I meant Wellens
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| I think we will go
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| Has Walsh lost a lot of weight since he's come over er ,
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Rest Wilkin for Hull FC???
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Rest him on the CC weekend, or against Wakey, but not Hull FC'"
Wellens has had a real Indian summer this year, but his performance dipped by all accounts last night. If were to stand any chance we need to keep him as fresh as possible ... Giving him 2 weeks rest, a game then another weeks rest is the best possible way to do that.
McDonnell coming in against hull would be huge, massive point for him to prove and all the rest of it. Hull will also be playing a kid in the halves, whether abdul or HTW, so any downside is negated. I'd also say Wakefield are a bigger threat than hull at the moment...
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| I believe McDonnell was pulled out the Rochdale squad and swift will play fullback.
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| Quote ="St pete"I believe McDonnell was pulled out the Rochdale squad and swift will play fullback.'"
Why was McDonnell pulled?
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Why was McDonnell pulled?'"
So he doesn't get hurt.
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| Quote ="St pete"So he doesn't get hurt.'"
Another piece of the jigsaw then
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| Quote ="St pete"I believe McDonnell was pulled out the Rochdale squad and swift will play fullback.'"
I expect to see McDonell at fullback against Hull with Wello and A N Other in the halves. We have too few attacking threats left to keep McDonnell out of the side IMO.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I expect to see McDonell at fullback against Hull with Wello and A N Other in the halves. We have too few attacking threats left to keep McDonnell out of the side IMO.'"
Certainly looks that way as swifty playing fullback for Rochdale now.
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| Had his op this morning and went as well as can be expected.
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| McManus went whiston last night with Luke. Not sure if he actually went in the ambulance with him.
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| It was real real bad could itch his ear with his foot
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| Quote ="Tez the Saint"Had his op this morning and went as well as can be expected.
Club are passing messages onto him.'"
They've opened up the Saints Facebook page for messages which they are going to pass on to Luke.
I'm gutted he's gone. Gutted for him, his family, the team and for me because I loved watching him play. He was all class.
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| It's times like this I wished we had signed tommy lee
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"They've opened up the Saints Facebook page for messages which they are going to pass on to Luke.
I'm gutted he's gone. Gutted for him, his family, the team and for me because I loved watching him play. He was all class.'"
He's not died!
Quote ="St pete"It's times like this I wished we had signed tommy lee'"
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| Do we think it's the last time we will see him in the saints shirt !!!
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| Nah, he'll be here next season.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"He's not died! '"
I can still feel gutted at not being able to watch a classy player on a rugby league pitch you know. He doesn't have to die first!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I can still feel gutted at not being able to watch a classy player on a rugby league pitch you know. He doesn't have to die first!'"
You said he WAS all class! He still is! We will see him in a red vee again I'm sure next year!
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| I agree with people that have said that Wello should be in the halves, he is a talker and a leader and that would be ideal for us considering we have no out and out half backs available
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