The radio had it right. Manu didn't really figure much, except to lay on the pass that Jones took up to put Meli in. Sia was stand out among the Saints players for his enthusiasm. He wasn't as obvious as he is on a dry track, for obvious reasons (it wasn't a dry track!), but he was everywhere doing everything and with much more enthusiasm than any of the other Saints players, who all came across as relatively lacklustre (even when compared to Salford!).

It should never have got there though. Wellens was far too slow returning the ball, it put us under pressure forcing him to pass (and a bad one at that) and that then forced Meli under pressure. Put simply if Lomax was in that position, it wouldn;t have even occured.

Haha.i'd love to see your reaction if Meli gave a pass like that to Makinson.

Have a little look a Ah Van's performance against Wigan tonight. Now that's awinger to complain about.

Meli has given plenty of passes 'like that' to Wello in the past and so I guess he got a taste of his own medicine, but unlike Wello, he was too incompetent to deal with it.

And I'm sure that in those situations, you would decide the fault should be split between the two men.

More importantly, watching the Wigan game (a little behind real time), and O'loughlin has gone off with a suspected cracked rib. Good news for us next week.

No, of course not, because Wello has always dealt with Meli's stupid passes very well. Had he not then yes I would.


I wouldn't wish an injury on anyone but not having him as well as Samkins to worry about should help our cause although I'm not overly hopeful of success, especially if Brown plays Wello at the back.

Come on SaintsFan, how on Earth can you say this?







It was poor execution and poor thinking on Wellens' part.

For the simple reason that that is my opinion, and indeed the opinion of half a dozen people sitting around me in the North Stand! But even if it wasn't their opinion, it would still be mine.

End of conversation.

Why is that relevant? I've asked why you hold that opinion. Basic comprehension SaintsFan.

Anyway it's a mute point. Viva Pope Francis.

Well your perfectly welcome to your opinion,in much the same way people who thought the earth was flat,the sun orbits the earth and creationist are entitled to theirs.

Moot. It's a moot point. 'Mute' means something entirely different.

I thought it was "Moo"? A moo point - like a cow's opinion, it doesn't matter?

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No, definately mute.

I entirely agree, which is why I've ended it.

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Only read the first page of the thread and did a little celebratory dance in my office. How have I missed this wonderful news for so long?



The guy is an utter liability when the going gets tough. Below are a couple of posts from [url=http://retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=510932&tsmp=1364229173this thread[/url after the 2011 GF summing up his contribution to Saints last FIVE Grand Finals:





Not sure what more I can add to that 18 months on.

Reading in todays Rugby papers Meli might be doing a u turn and staying. He is enjoying playing for Mr. Brown and has had a slightly different role this year.

Looks a very different player under Brown to be fair, seems to be making a lot more busts and half breaks too

He scores a couple of good tries and people forget he is a liability, especially in the big games against the big teams who know it and exploit it.

If we make it to a grand final I wouldnt trust him to bring the water on never mind play. With some players it's a mental thing and he must have some mental scars now after all his monumental cockups

He scored a try on Friday but everyone forgets that Salford scored one by running between him and Josh Jones.

I hope he does stay, he more than makes up for his overhyped errors in attack.

Sorry, he can be good in attack, but he simply cannot handle the pressure and every opposing kicker knows it, I'm expecting a perfect demonstration from St.helens' own Matty Smith on Friday