I suspect many more posts like this will be the order of the night Quote ="MattyB"We are in big trouble this season. The two games we won we were very lucky indeed. Our senior players are ill-disciplined, un-interested, are throwing the ball like a group of strangers and our kicking game and distribution is poor. To top that our fowards coming away from our line are doing well to get to the forty metre line on the last. We are in desperate trouble, with a relegation dogfight at the end of the season the expected bottom third clubs are all putting decent wins in every other game, so it's going to be hard to pull away from them in this form. Dare I say it......it's starting to feel like 2006 all over again?'" viewtopic.php?f=28&t=580019

I suspect many more posts like this will be the order of the night Quote ="MattyB"We are in big trouble this season. The two games we won we were very lucky indeed. Our senior players are ill-disciplined, un-interested, are throwing the ball like a group of strangers and our kicking game and distribution is poor. To top that our fowards coming away from our line are doing well to get to the forty metre line on the last. We are in desperate trouble, with a relegation dogfight at the end of the season the expected bottom third clubs are all putting decent wins in every other game, so it's going to be hard to pull away from them in this form. Dare I say it......it's starting to feel like 2006 all over again?'" viewtopic.php?f=28&t=580019

Quote ="No1 Saint"I suspect many more posts like this will be the order of the night viewtopic.php?f=28&t=580019'" Oh my god, did Carney just say Leeds pushed the bar higher tonight? I swear they need to get a new script. They are churning the same lines out each week and night after night.

Quote ="No1 Saint"I suspect many more posts like this will be the order of the night viewtopic.php?f=28&t=580019'" Oh my god, did Carney just say Leeds pushed the bar higher tonight? I swear they need to get a new script. They are churning the same lines out each week and night after night.

He did indeed, and Eddie the sheep agreed with him .. laughable really . Speaking of laughing I cant wait to here what Ape thinks

How long before we start to hear the Goons favourite song "you're not fit to wear the shirt"? They really have got a Pygmy pack, Bateman is one of their best players, abd he would be too small as a half back. Their props are non existent, and Gelling is a comedy player. Smith had yet another stinker too.

Smith is struggling without a good 6 with him. He looks lost.

The organisation was all over the shop. At times it was like a queue for the bus, people stumbling over each other getting in the way of the ball player

Different team with SOL. They will be praying he's back soon and that his body can hold up for the season.

They better start praying for the discovery of the fountain of youth too, I don't SOL has a great deal of gas left in the tank

The more we win and they lose gets me more and more nervous for good Friday. They broke our winning streak last year at this time afterall

I'm not particularly bothered about Good Friday. Sure, I want us to win. But putting maximum points on the board early gives us the freedom to cough up one or two games without any serious consequences.

The Wiganers should be fired up. Lord knows they can't afford to lose another game.

What we don't want to do is leave too much form at the start of the year.

If they cant get a win against Wakey next week they'll be in big trouble and your (world famous) envi-o-meter will be in danger of breaking.
I just hate it when we go into a game against them as big favourites

I agree , beating them[i is[/i important but picking up silverware far outweighs it. I think KC understands that but I'm not sure Wane does.

Beating Wigan is everything. Dominate Wigan through a season and chances are you'll be there or there abouts for trophy success. The lift the team gets from turning them over is huge. Likewise, Wigan beating us can turn their season around.

I think Wigan's problems are far more fundamental. I just can't understand this season's obsession with neglecting your front row in favour of strengthening your back division. Both Wigan & Leeds (to a lesser extent) seemed utterly fixated with touch rugby - pushing all of their attacking thrust down the channels (with maybe one or two half-hearted "forward" drives to reset the playbook).

It's ironic that precisely at the time when England boasts its finest collection of front rowers (in decades) - the English game seems to be giving up on the position of prop.

I mean, look at the utterly pathetic stats "Honest" Tony Clubb and Mossop turned in last night. I'd seriously consider quitting the sport if those figures were mine. And it's not as though Leeds' defence was a brick wall.

Not for me, beating Wigan to silverware is what really hurts them. At the end of the day history will judge teams , players and coaches by how may titles and trophies they've won not by how many times they got one over the local rivals. I cant argue beating the goons in a major final is the most satisfying feeling but I'd settle for beating Wakefield or Salford in the grand final tbh ... as long as we win I'n not that bothered

Wane suffers from this obsession with beating Saints and it will imo eventually form part of his undoing. As the coach he should be primarily focused on whats in front of him and his team and he should be making sure his players only think about who the are playing next .. instead he does a weird interview and starts prattling on about us when he should have been worried about Leeds.

At this rate the next Saints game he obsesses over might be his last ...

You think they'd give him the boot? or wait till the end of the year to make a transition. Who would they put in charge in the short term ? Ginger?

Someone has already started to name a replacement over on the Wigan forum.

Noticed that

Yep, think they're jumping the gun a bit. I'd stick with Wane. They'll be much better with Flower and O'Loughlin back. Do think he needs to change his tactics though. Can't rely on back rowers and backline for go forward all the time.

Can see Good Friday being a blockbuster as well. Perfect opportunity for Wigan to turn their season around. Alternatively, perfect chance for Saints to really put them to bed.

I think some fans at lots of clubs are missing that 2 points covers the teams from 12 to 4. By tomorrow that could be only 1 point covering 75% of the league. This is the close run league that people bemoan SL not having were bottom can beat top.

(Widnes have already beaten Saints this year all be it in a friendly).

But it seems that without the certainty of run away success, most fans jump to the extreme of we are aweful and we will get relegated.

Easy for us to say but some fans need to get a grip.

Where would wane go if he gets sacked? He's invested so much energy into talking down other clubs and how Wigan is everything, how could he coach elsewhere?

And Who'd have him in oz after that embarrassing down under video?

Worrying times for the ape.

Wigan should not sack Wane.. in fact I think they should give him a new contract. 4 years might do!

Back up the scaffold to throw barrels.

Wow got a link?