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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"What we need now is a coach who can get the best from an injury ravaged side, with no recognised half backs, one who could maybe beat all the odds and lead the kids to the GF. Can anyone think of a coach like that????'"
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"Haven't heard any times on Wilkin or Lomax yet.'"
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"What we need now is a coach who can get the best from an injury ravaged side, with no recognised half backs, one who could maybe beat all the odds and lead the kids to the GF. Can anyone think of a coach like that????'"
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| Quote ="St pete"The bulls won't release potter
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| Quote ="St pete"The bulls won't release potter
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| Wheeler's hamstring again they think...
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| We had recognised halves! Open to debate. I have real concerns regarding Hohaia. Poor kicking game especially from deep, hesitant and doesnt appear to bring any structure or organisational skills to the side. Hardly ever took the line on today happy to just drop telegraphed inside ball off his shoulder to a forward. Really poor last two weeks, expected more from an international quality player & needs to improve and fast.
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| Quote ="theres only one stan wall"We had recognised halves! Open to debate. I have real concerns regarding Hohaia. Poor kicking game especially from deep, hesitant and doesnt appear to bring any structure or organisational skills to the side. Hardly ever took the line on today happy to just drop telegraphed inside ball off his shoulder to a forward. Really poor last two weeks, expected more from an international quality player & needs to improve and fast.'"
I've said it from day one, good player but never a halfback.
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| Quote ="theres only one stan wall"We had recognised halves! Open to debate. I have real concerns regarding Hohaia. Poor kicking game especially from deep, hesitant and doesnt appear to bring any structure or organisational skills to the side. Hardly ever took the line on today happy to just drop telegraphed inside ball off his shoulder to a forward. Really poor last two weeks, expected more from an international quality player & needs to improve and fast.'"
His best games for us is when he has played at 9. He needs to step up these next couple of weeks until the cavalry arrives.
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| I've got a funny feeling jonny lomax will play Saturday.
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| Mike appleton tweeted saying probably not next week but Lomax back week after. Ade's knee looking more positive suspected minor damage to medial ligament.
Scans for Wilkin, Ade & TP tomorrow. TP could be long term.
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| Quote ="St pete"I've got a funny feeling jonny lomax will play Saturday.'"
You could play Johnny Vegas at 7 and still beat Widnes
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| Wheeler has just tweeted that he doesnt think the injury as bad as first feared. Also said he probably shouldnt have played.
Medical staff wont be happy with that but the lad probably feels he needed to put It after all the stick he gets about injuries.
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| Quote ="dirtbag83"You could play Johnny Vegas at 7 and still beat Widnes'"
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| Quote ="Don Brennan"Wheeler has just tweeted that he doesnt think the injury as bad as first feared. Also said he probably shouldnt have played.
Medical staff wont be happy with that but the lad probably feels he needed to put It after all the stick he gets about injuries.'"
To be fair - the club has been exceedingly patient with Gary. Some certainly would not have granted him a contract after the injuries he's sustained. I've supported him throughout but he really has to start showing some serious form THIS SEASON. Another year wiped out and it's going to be very difficult to defend the lad. I feel sorry for him. I really do. But League is a tough business and if he can't produce the goods then we really must look for someone who can.
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| If Puletua is looking at 3 months out we might as well write him off for the best part of the season.
It'll take him at least 4 - 6 games to get back up to speed. And there's the issue of confidence.
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| The whole season is a write off and has been since the day they drew a line under the recruitment. Two props, a halfback and a fullback light.
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plus two Darren Alberts
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| I see the doom merchants are back.
What I'm interested in not having seen the game, how did Lance and Wheeler combine prior to the injuries. Once a half goes off then who ever is left ain't going to be very good especially after being down to 1 sub already. But early in the season there was alot of clamour for Wheeler to have a run at halfback, rather than Gaskell. I argued Wheeler gave us more in the centres but given that Wheeler had not had a chance it was not fair to judge without him having a go.
The reports from the Bradford game were that he an Lomax (I think it was) did not combine well. Is Wheeler a long term half or are his talents better suited to the centre's?
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| For me he looks good as a centre.
I think most people would agree a fully fit wheeler has got to be in the team somewhere.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I see the doom merchants are back.
What I'm interested in not having seen the game, how did Lance and Wheeler combine prior to the injuries. Once a half goes off then who ever is left ain't going to be very good especially after being down to 1 sub already. But early in the season there was alot of clamour for Wheeler to have a run at halfback, rather than Gaskell. I argued Wheeler gave us more in the centres but given that Wheeler had not had a chance it was not fair to judge without him having a go.
The reports from the Bradford game were that he an Lomax (I think it was) did not combine well. Is Wheeler a long term half or are his talents better suited to the centre's?'"
Lomax and Wheeler are way too similar in style to play together effectively in the halves. Wheeler looks our long term #6 for me, but if Lomax is going to be our number 7 for the forseeable future (and it's hard to see much choice) then Wheeler is probably best used at #4 for now. Gaskell or Lance (ish) are better foils for Lomax' style than Wheeler is.
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| Quote ="Northampton_Saint"Lomax and Wheeler are way too similar in style to play together effectively in the halves. Wheeler looks our long term #6 for me, but if Lomax is going to be our number 7 for the forseeable future (and it's hard to see much choice) then Wheeler is probably best used at #4 for now. Gaskell or Lance (ish) are better foils for Lomax' style than Wheeler is.'"
At present, we appear to have a shed load of 6s (Wheeler, Gaskell, Hohoaia) and no 7s. Lomax, I think will end up at FB. For me, the best combo of the crop would be Hohoaia at 7, Wheeler at 6, Lomax at 1, although that does rear the ugly question of a kicking game, which appears to be our major sticking point, meaning that Gaskell really has to be shoe horned in there, somewhere. With the emergence of Jones at 4, we really are getting to an unsustainable amount of backs pushing for first team footy (barring injuries), and sooner or later, a couple of them are going to have to be shipped out. I can see Saints listening to big money offers for Lomax, or Wheeler, if an offer was received.
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"At present, we appear to have a shed load of 6s (Wheeler, Gaskell, Hohoaia) and no 7s. Lomax, I think will end up at FB. For me, the best combo of the crop would be Hohoaia at 7, Wheeler at 6, Lomax at 1, although that does rear the ugly question of a kicking game, which appears to be our major sticking point, meaning that Gaskell really has to be shoe horned in there, somewhere. With the emergence of Jones at 4, we really are getting to an unsustainable amount of backs pushing for first team footy (barring injuries), and sooner or later, a couple of them are going to have to be shipped out. I can see Saints listening to big money offers for Lomax, or Wheeler, if an offer was received.'"
Wheeler will never make a halfback, he doesn't impose himself on games enough. In the few games he's played at 6 for Saints, he's been anonymous. He should be given the centre spot with Makinson on his wing going forward.
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