Lance has been a failure but I don't think it's all his fault and I actually feel sorry for him. He was brought in to play stand off which he can't play. He's tried and put the effort in but he's just not a stand off.

He's now not even making the 17 which IMO is a insult when we've got wello taking the utility role off the bench yet wello can't play in any position other than fullback which he's behind lomax, makinson and swift. Lance can basically cover the back line and hooker.

When he came off the bench at 9 at the back end of last year he was playing well.

Given that Lomax and Wheeler have missed more than a handful of games over the past two years it'd be silly moving Lance on because past injuries suggest we'll need him.

Ryan Brierley scored another 4 tries today. I would love him at Saints alongside Walsh. Another Danny Maguire, great support play and fast.

Just checked wiki (a reliable source i know) - he's out of contract at the end of this year, so I suppose the saints management will at least look at him!

At 22 he's the same age as gob, and probably a little too old to fall into the youngster category - and there's a lot of things that we don't have answers for yet - IF wheeler lasts the season, would he want to go from first choice to back up (especially with middle 8 being a viable target) - if wheeler breaks down, is he (more) capable of making the step up (than charnock), there are plenty of examples of players looking great against poor opposition and then freezing (mike smith? We signed him from hull Kr played a friendly then ran off, inspite of looking awesome in the division below!) - and given were probably looking at a bit of money to spend next year, is there better available for our problem areas?

But I've certainly heard good things, and will keep an eye out for mentions of him!

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Quote ="LFC Saint"Ryan Brierley scored another 4 tries today. I would love him at Saints alongside Walsh. Another Danny Maguire, great support play and fast.'" Make that 5^ www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/11 ... _the_week/

I'd definitely take a punt on Brierley if he's available at the end of the season. Will offer much than Hohaia ever has, will be much cheaper and is still only 22?

Lance still not even made the 19, as a professional he can not be happy

Especially with wello in front of him as the utility player.

a bit of a kick in the nuts that!

You got to wonder why, given the amount of key positions he can cover. If Roby/ Walsh/ wheeler/ lomax were to pull up in the last training session, you'd assume it would be lance to step in - but he's not even in the squad so can't?

It's all very strange

Exactly

problem is, he can cover those positions, but badly. Lance it seems is well out of favour

It has more to do with his hand being forced, frozen out of the squad.

But is it any worse than having to move around 3/4 players to cover?

Given how brown talks about him in the press he's always very complimentary, almost smitten about him, it's almost like he wants to play him but just can't bring himself to justify it!

Clough loaned, Gardner loaned, does lance fancy a spell in the capital?

He cant go on loan for visa reasons, i think wigan have had the same problem with Gelling

Brown bigs him up in public, but can't rate him that highly or he'd be in the squad

He is in the 19 mate.

Surely we can't keep a £100k+ player in the reserves though? If brown doesn't rate him enough beyond that, let him go to cowboys and bring in someone he does rate (or 3) - if he doesn't rate him why the fervent denial he's leaving?

ah missed that. Wonder if he'll make the 17 instead of Wello this week

For all we know, he's got a slight knock.

I think its more likely he's just out of favour

100% fit.

Then he's 100% out of favour as well!

Can Lance come back from this?

I'm sure he will get his chance as the season goes on with injuries. It's down to him to take that chance.

Quote ="Saint Simon"Then he's 100% out of favour as well! Can Lance come back from this?'" Opening at Catalans? www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... for-dureau?

Quote ="Saint Simon"Then he's 100% out of favour as well! Can Lance come back from this?'" Opening at Catalans? www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... for-dureau?

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Opening at Catalans? www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... for-dureau?'" We've let a lot out on loan at the moment, i'd be surprised if we let him go now. Probably be a good move for Lance though, if we kept the option to recall him if needed

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Opening at Catalans? www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/29 ... for-dureau?'" We've let a lot out on loan at the moment, i'd be surprised if we let him go now. Probably be a good move for Lance though, if we kept the option to recall him if needed

With his lack of effort I don't want to see him in a red vee again.