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| Quote ="Warrington Wolf"Inexperience? If you recorded the game go back to the penalty from Hohia and listen to briers. Prior to playing the ball. How inexperience in defence negates counts for creative play I don't know. '"
Wellens would have knocked it dead rather than give Carvell the opportunity to ground it, that's where the inexperience comes into it. Had there been another 10 minutes on the clock Lomax may well have done himself.
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| Lomax knew there was only 2 or 3 minutes on the clock and giving Wire a repeat set would pretty much give them the game.
It was the right thing to do, to gamble and try and let it run dead, had he cleared it himself they would have won anyway, just by one less try.
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| Redex113 take a day off. Dire? Bottlers? How and what can you back this up with since Tony Smith has took over? Stop living in the past.
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| Quote ="redex113":3ewumpfm[q=#FF8040:3ewumpfm=#FF8040uote="St pete"We should have took the two points with aprox 10 mins to go with the pen under the posts. That would have made it 18-23 with a converted try winning the game. It would have also put massive pressure on the wolves.:3ewumpfm
I agree with Howarth. We shouldn't have brought him back on. Lance was playing well at 9. He was causing them problems with the ball and also putting in a shift in defence. I thought we really had them, we was smashing them in defence, making breaks, the crowd was buzzing and brown took lance and Lms off and we went flat.'"
Yep as this season we have beaten Wigan and Leeds in the last ten mins! Have a look a your own form! Not beaten us at your home ground embarrassing
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| Quote ="AJR":3c8jxg3kCould not agree more regarding the missed penalty opportunity. Dire are well known bottlers and would have bottled it big style last night.'" :3c8jxg3k
Yep as this season we have beaten Wigan and Leeds in the last ten mins! Have a look a your own form! Not beaten us at your home ground embarrassing'"
Not really. We've only been in our new stadium for two years. In our old stadium, you couldn't beat us to save your lives.
And besides, how many times have you beaten us at the HJ now? Twice is it?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Not really. We've only been in our new stadium for two years. In our old stadium, you couldn't beat us to save your lives.
And besides, how many times have you beaten us at the HJ now? Twice is it?'"
Isn't it strange how poor we are at home since our move to Langtree? We seem better playing away.
Knowsley road was a real fortress for us. Winning home games is the platform for a high finish in super league IMO. The days of us finishing top of the pile was based on us not losing at home of losing one/two a season.
Who'd of thought a stadium would make so much difference. After all, it's only grass we play on.
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| Quote ="redex113" Could not agree more regarding the missed penalty opportunity. Dire are well known bottlers and would have bottled it big style last night.'"
Have you been in a coma...its not 2005 anymore....you do know that?
why don't you grow some and start taking defeat with some class.
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| Quote ="AJR":376urxgiCould not agree more regarding the missed penalty opportunity. Dire are well known bottlers and would have bottled it big style last night.'" :376urxgi
Yep as this season we have beaten Wigan and Leeds in the last ten mins! Have a look a your own form! Not beaten us at your home ground
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| We lost the game in the opening spell as Brown selected the wrong side to start. LMS should've started the game instead of Walker, we had no go forward in that opening spell and that put pressure on our kicking game. Laffranchi and Puletua offered absolutely nothing once again. Warrington were able to batter us in that opening spell and scored points.
Once Walmsley, LMS and Sia came on our intensity lifted and so did our go forward. We were actually the better team from the half hour mark up until the Warrington drop goal and in the end if we hadn't made some stupid decisions we could've won the game. All woulda, shoulda coulda but after the start we made we worked our way back into the game quite well.
The return of Roby is a great boost to us as we won't have to see Howarth again. His distribution and overall contribution was painful. He was awful in his opening spell and came up with a baffling decision to kick on the 4th to change the momentum of the game in his 2nd spell.
We're not going to get to the Grand Final but if Brown has learned his lessons and selects a bigger team to start with, we may well compete against anybody in the games we do play in come the play offs.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"We were actually the better team from the half hour mark up until the Warrington drop goal and in the end if we hadn't made some stupid decisions we could've won the game. All woulda, shoulda coulda but after the start we made we worked our way back into the game quite well.'"
I agree. We were the better team in the second half but it's the start that has done us yet again.
I think the fact they got a drop goal says it all. They knew we were on top and had to go for it.
Think we can take a lot of positives from the game though. The fact that the majority of their trys came from kicks because there was only the Evans try that never came from a kick. That's a big positive for our defence.
On three of those kicks they were also fortunate and on a different day the ball may have bounced differently:
Howarth should have taken the kick but then it pops up and Higham strips it from lomax. Waterhouse knees it after a deflection and then the last one lomax should have dealt with that but you can see why he took the gamble.
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| Quote ="St pete"Isn't it strange how poor we are at home since our move to Langtree? We seem better playing away.
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It is, yes. I've chatted to mates about this and I reckon it's simply down to the playing personnel. When we lost Jammer, we lost the last player to have any feistiness about him and any leadership quality. I don't think the stadium has anything to do with it. It's just coincidence that we have no aggression or leadership left in our team at the same time as we move stadia and this group tend to choke/panic when confronted by the majority of home fans.
That's my theory anyway!
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| Quote ="saint at wire"I'll start then.
Q1 - Utterly pathetic
Q2 - Hmmm if we attack Wire aren't that good
Q3 - All over them. you could just see tries coming
Q4 - Some bad judgement plays (why to the left all the time when Wire were there for the taking with only Evans and Riley to beat on our right). Ran out of steam; illustrated by our lack of wanting to form a scrum.
Silverwood - useless Wire were offside for most PTB's
Wellens - added some steel to our middle
Howarth - couldn't get into the game so was taken off. Brought him back on in the last 15 mins with same result.
Overall - mystified with our first and last 20 mins.
MOM - Lomax (in spite of mistake at the end).'"
After watching the game again and reading the views on here - I have reconsidered my MOM as Lomax; he did have a mixed game. I would give it to Sia or Manu.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"After watching the game again and reading the views on here - I have reconsidered my MOM as Lomax; he did have a mixed game. I would give it to Sia or Manu.'"
Manu IMO was head and shoulders above any saints players. Sia had few drop balls and was hammered by the wolves defence but his attitude was top class. Every time he dropped the ball he was next in with the tackle trying to make amends.
Sia was playing like a extra prop. He was taking it down the middle but we need him and Manu running out wide but unfortunately we don't have the halves to get them running out wide but Walsh should be able to next year.
Both sia and Manu could be devastating running wide if we could give them GOOD ball.
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Have you been in a coma...its not 2005 anymore....you do know that?
why don't you grow some and start taking defeat with some class.
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I am adamant that had we taken the two points on offer we would have won. You lot were already treading water and tiring fast and would have made mistakes, not surprisingly as your town has been based on the wire industry and breweries. What do people who work in breweries do? why they bottle it and wire workers ? they are skilled wire pullers.
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