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| I think Wane is actually doing very well from a results and performance perspective. I wish Saints demonstrated some of the tenacity and aggression his side are showing so far. He may not be the greatest orator but at the end of the day it won't matter if they win stuff.
I had my doubts about him taking over from Maguire but looks like he's dealing with it well enough so fair play to him.
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| Quote ="Allez"I had my doubts about him taking over from Maguire but looks like he's dealing with it well enough so fair play to him.'" I think he's dealing with it very well. They still look slick and the forward still work together very well. We've also seen how they can really up the temp in a derby game.
I don't know how much is him just keeping up what Maguire set out, or if its off his own back. It will be a real test of that if they were to lose Finch this off season and has to rebuild around a new play maker.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"I think he's dealing with it very well. They still look slick and the forward still work together very well. We've also seen how they can really up the temp in a derby game.
I don't know how much is him just keeping up what Maguire set out, or if its off his own back. It will be a real test of that if they were to lose Finch this off season and has to rebuild around a new play maker.'"
Wane has already changed both the defensive and attacking style and structure since taking over from Maguire so he's certainly not just copying Maguire and hoping for the same.
He's got the best out of some of the younger home grown players like McIlorum and Goulding and it's really paid off and helped to negate the losses of some key players.
As for how coaches look or sound or whatever else people want to go on about, I wouldn't care if the coach looked like Joseph Merrick and sounded like Joe Pasquale as long as the team is winning.
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| The "Ape" is top of the league and inspired his team to inflict a painful first derby defeat at TP on you not that long ago. He seems to be doing a good job to me.
Strange that you want to have a pop at him. If you lose (as I think you will) then you won't just have been beaten by your hated local rivals - that's bad enough - but by a team coached by some primitive, gorilla-like creature (according to you).
What will that say about Saints? What does it say about what happened a few weeks ago?
Keep the abuse coming, we know you're rattled.
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| Quote ="mistermoo"I presume you have met Mike Rush and told him to his face, of course, how arrogant and monotone he is when being interviewed?'"
Nope, but I would do. He's probably just smirk, then sulk, then be sarcastic, like he does when he's being interviewed. It's a local trait, I think.
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| Quote ="Ande"Wane is living off Maguire's team and ethics. I think he is reaping the rewards of Maguire's development of players.
He brought in Lauaki from Hull and some RU no mark. So far he has only lost Richards who is replaced by Charnley (who was playing SL for a full season before Richards got injured) or Gelling from the fabled Wigan Yoof Academy who has it real tough playing outside Carmont. Carmont was injured but he is back playing now isn't he so that rules out the argument there.
It'll be interesting to see how they cope with the loss of Leuluai next year as he is a major player for Wigan. I don't know if they are linked with anyone etc.'"
Hey up, we've someone here who's not a clue what he's talking about.
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| Quote ="Broxy Music"I think Rush and Wane are great, Rush has got one of those horrible scouse st helens accents which winds wiganers up!! Rush In.'"
TO be fair, that's a great comment.
Wigan and St Helens, both coached by local people who have had this rivalry drummed into them since they were in nappies.
It's miles better than a couple of nasal Aussies exchanging quotes devoid of, well, anything. And I've always said, Aussie coaches may well pay lip service to this rivalry, but they really don't know or appreciate what it's all about when all is said and done. They can be told about it, and they can preach it, but they don't FEEL it.
Wane and Rush do, though.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Whilst we were at full strength and didn't lose anyone to injury in the first half . . . .'"
Lomax and who else...?
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"I think he's dealing with it very well. They still look slick and the forward still work together very well. We've also seen how they can really up the temp in a derby game.
I don't know how much is him just keeping up what Maguire set out, or if its off his own back. It will be a real test of that if they were to lose Finch this off season and has to rebuild around a new play maker.'"
Not convinced it's a total continuation of Maguire's setup to be honest. Our defence at times hasn't looked as clinical, but our attack near the line is pretty much flawless, and certainly better than it was under Maguire.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"Hey up, we've someone here who's not a clue what he's talking about.'"
Aye, some of the in depth knowledge about the ins and outs at Wigan has me worried. Fancy having all that information on your rivals, it must be priceless!!!!!
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"Nope, but I would do. He's probably just smirk, then sulk, then be sarcastic, like he does when he's being interviewed. It's a local trait, I think.'"
Of course you would . The same as I [iwould[/i tell Wane that I dislike the way he carries out interviews and he does in fact, look like Donkey Kong.
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| Quote ="mistermoo"Of course you would
. The same as I [iwould[/i tell Wane that I dislike the way he carries out interviews and he does in fact, look like Donkey Kong.'"
and what point does that prove?
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| Quote ="the wrestler"and what point does that prove?'"
The point I am trying to make is that because someone says something derogatory about an opposing player or coach it does not mean they would be prepared to say it to them if they saw them in the street.
To raise it as a counter point as Robinson did was pathetic and immature.
If you had read the whole thread you may have seen this.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"Lomax and who else...?'"
Nobody. If you ignore our captain, our best prop and our best centre - we weren't missing anyone at all except Lomax.
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To be fair no Saints fan is going to look half as stupid as the Ape if Wigan lose this match.
www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480
"The one thing about their team is that since our game, they've not been in a real arm wrestle.
"They've had some easy wins over teams like Oldham and Widnes. We need to make sure they know they've been in a game, get them in an arm wrestle going set for set and see what they're like under pressure."
Yeh we've never played under pressure and jes our easy win against Oldham was a really disappointment, I would much rather have struggled to a win over featherstone.
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To be fair no Saints fan is going to look half as stupid as the Ape if Wigan lose this match.
www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480
"The one thing about their team is that since our game, they've not been in a real arm wrestle.
"They've had some easy wins over teams like Oldham and Widnes. We need to make sure they know they've been in a game, get them in an arm wrestle going set for set and see what they're like under pressure."
Yeh we've never played under pressure and jes our easy win against Oldham was a really disappointment, I would much rather have struggled to a win over featherstone.
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This Silverback needs teaching a lesson,i hope saturday will be the time,although i will wait the full season if necessary to hear his catchphrase "I'm Gutted i am,absolutely gutted"
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This Silverback needs teaching a lesson,i hope saturday will be the time,although i will wait the full season if necessary to hear his catchphrase "I'm Gutted i am,absolutely gutted"
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He'll certainly be scratching his head if we win
I actually like Wane, his honesty is refreshing
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Quote ="bewareshadows"To be fair no Saints fan is going to look half as stupid as the Ape if Wigan lose this match.
www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480
"The one thing about their team is that since our game, they've not been in a real arm wrestle.
"They've had some easy wins over teams like Oldham and Widnes. We need to make sure they know they've been in a game, get them in an arm wrestle going set for set and see what they're like under pressure."
Yeh we've never played under pressure and jes our easy win against Oldham was a really disappointment, I would much rather have struggled to a win over featherstone.'"
Why would Wane look stupid? He's not said that Wigan will win, he has stated that Saints have had some easy games in Oldham and Widnes and that Wigan will make more of a game of it.
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Quote ="bewareshadows"To be fair no Saints fan is going to look half as stupid as the Ape if Wigan lose this match.
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"The one thing about their team is that since our game, they've not been in a real arm wrestle.
"They've had some easy wins over teams like Oldham and Widnes. We need to make sure they know they've been in a game, get them in an arm wrestle going set for set and see what they're like under pressure."
Yeh we've never played under pressure and jes our easy win against Oldham was a really disappointment, I would much rather have struggled to a win over featherstone.'"
Why would Wane look stupid? He's not said that Wigan will win, he has stated that Saints have had some easy games in Oldham and Widnes and that Wigan will make more of a game of it.
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| Mind games. He knows which verbal punches will put Mike Rush in a flap.
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| Quote ="goobervision"He's not said that Wigan will win'"
Really?
[i "I want it to be a real physical, aggressive battle. I'm looking forward to a really tough game and I expect a convincing win.[/i
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| Quote ="mistermoo"Really?
[i"I want it to be a real physical, aggressive battle. I'm looking forward to a really tough game and I expect a convincing win.[/i'"
Perhaps goobervision thinks he means a convincing win by us
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| Quote ="Saint_Claire"Perhaps goobervision thinks he means a convincing win by us
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Of course he does mean us. It will be just as convincing a win as tonights under 20's scoreline.
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| I guess he did not actually read the whole article.
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| Said on the Wigan board, I wish Wane would shut up and stop being like rent-a-quote
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