You're a Wigan fan, yes?

Stats can mean anything you want them to mean. JRD wanted them to mean that we have picked a poor player. I'll wait and see on that one.

I've never been a massive fan of stats. Especially stats for Graham when he plays for 80 mins when compared to props that rotate.

And no i am not a Wigan fan.

The point that both you and I have acknowledged (that you seem to have strayed from) is that he provided you with information you didn't have before. How is that a bad thing?

I bet you could have written all you know about perry on the back of a stamp when he was signed. Surely any new info is great.

It's not a bad thing. But I'm free to take it with a pinch of salt, as I am doing.

I probably would too. As i said i await the season. It will be exciting to see how certain players develop over the season and having a good friends who is a die hard saints fan. I may get a running report of them.

I would suggest, from the little i've seen of perry and the bits that i've read and stats i've seen, that Perry is goign to be like a good version of Ryan Bailey. He won't be busting down many doors with the ball in hand but will add alot of weight and agression to both defence and attack.

Prop is the only position I tend to take notice of stats for, looking at yards made, offloads etc. What I've tended to notice is that [ino of tackles [/itends to be the best marker for how many minutes a prop is playing.

Its a bit of a myth, Graham doing 80 minutes.

An interesting development - Leeds have just signed Ben Cross, Perry's adversary in two separate punch ups this season.

This should make the Leeds fixture rather spicy for Josh, with Peacock and Cross in their front row. And, let's face it, he's bound to end up scrapping with Ryan Bailey as well.

yep and LMS and Jammer cower away from the rough stuff too

AmI the only one who thinks that's a strange move for Leeds, given they've already got 4 senoir props?

Peacock - 33 at the start of 2011
Leuluai - 33 by the start of 2011
Cross - 32 at the start of 2011
Bailey - 27
Burgess - 24

Old frontrow that.

True, and Cross isn't making it much younger.

Maybe Peacock isn't going to be the JP we know and respect now?

Leeds are an ageing side, similar to Warrington but have obvious quality. Cross is a good short term signing for them and it's an area they needed some recruitment. If Leeds get a little bit more luck with injury next year, they'll be challenging for top spot again.

I look forward to seeing our pack squaring up with them, especially Perry and Cross.

Have they signed Cross as there isn't any decent 2nd rowers available? Thats the area in which they are lacking imo especially as they are losing Eastwood.

Sounds like Buderus had a big role in their decision to sign him, keeping Danny B happy maybe?

It seems like Danny B is the golden boy at Leeds and Diskin has well and truly been shafted. Considering not too long ago, the Leeds mob were considering Diskin to be a worthy international.

How things change for one player in such a short space of time,

Diskin has never been better than average.