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| Quote ="Saddened!"As mentioned by other people already, Monday is perfect. We're in Catalonia for a week so he'll have minimal worries there as the knuckle draggers that were abusing him won't own a passport let alone enough money to pay for international travel.
Royce seems to have given him the kitchen sink judging by some of the comments attributed to him today.'"
Well maybe if he put some effort in them knuckle draggers wouldnt be on hes back
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| Its this simple for me? Kyle signs for us and plays or sits in the stand until he leaves. We move on and stop this circus act thats effecting our season.
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| Quote ="Rommel"Its this simple for me? Kyle signs for us and plays or sits in the stand until he leaves. We move on and stop this circus act thats effecting our season.'"
Exactly my thoughts Rommel.
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| If he were to stay, fantastic. We can kick on from there. If on Monday he announces he is leaving now, again that is fine as we can then spend a whole season mercilessly tapping up some gun replacement, or sign Luke Gale.
What I was wondering is if he announces he is going at the end of the season because Bath aren't willing to compensate Saints, what would people think of moving him back to centre? I hate the idea of basing your side around a player who is leaving, but playing centre requires far less focus and we could utilise his pace much more easily from there?
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/582
Apology from Kyle Eastmond to the Saints fans.'"
Fair play.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"If he were to stay, fantastic. We can kick on from there. If on Monday he announces he is leaving now, again that is fine as we can then spend a whole season mercilessly tapping up some gun replacement, or sign Luke Gale.
What I was wondering is if he announces he is going at the end of the season because Bath aren't willing to compensate Saints, what would people think of moving him back to centre? I hate the idea of basing your side around a player who is leaving, but playing centre requires far less focus and we could utilise his pace much more easily from there?'"
All players leave eventually, Long in his last season would have been the starting no7 for every game, except for injuries. Pryce will be the starting no 6 in his last season. If Eastmond is our best option at 7, he should start, regardless of our feelings towards him. We play to win every game, next seasons games will look after themselves.
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| Quote ="Rommel"Its this simple for me? Kyle signs for us and plays or sits in the stand until he leaves. Stop this circus act thats effecting our season.'"
100% Behind you ...... but make him play in the Academy least that way we may get some work from him.
Quote ="Saddened!"he'll have minimal worries there as the knuckle draggers that were abusing him won't own a passport let alone enough money to pay for international travel..'" .
I dont consider myself as a "knuckle dragger", I own a passport and have the money for international travel, so where do you get off with comments like this ..... you really are saddened or are you ( looks over shoulder in case KC is about ) an agent
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| Quote ="diehardofowld" I dont consider myself as a "knuckle dragger", I own a passport and have the money for international travel, so where do you get off with comments like this ...'"
I had no problems with them booing him when he did his petulant walk off. But there were individuals laying into him during the warm up and all through the game.
I notice no one was abusing James Graham and he's doing exactly the same thing as Kyle. If he has another poor game will we all get stuck into him?
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| I heard a lot of people abusing graham. Then I heard a lot of abuse generally. Nothing nasty just borne of frustration I would say.
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| You have a very short memory, Saints fans have always needed a scape goat ... usually a winger but not always. Watched some shocking moments when Scully wouldnt pass to Lyon with an open line .... Danny Arnold getting stick along with Sullivan, not to mention Long and KC knocking on all over the park. As for comments before the start of a game , both Meli and Gardner have suffered with this sort of crap,. The way round it ..... announce he is staying and then silence the KD's ...or say he is going and bring on a player to fill the role ....the latter is my choice but I am sure there are differing views.
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I like the 'sources indicate' caveat at the beginning!
According to his apology, Kyle is with us for the rest of the season. This is also what the Chief Exec said in the RL press last week. It could all be BS of course.
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I like the 'sources indicate' caveat at the beginning!
According to his apology, Kyle is with us for the rest of the season. This is also what the Chief Exec said in the RL press last week. It could all be BS of course.
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| I hope he stays in the game but it looks highly unlikely. If he is with you for the rest of the season I sincerely hope he knuckles down and performs for you because he really is great to watch when he's on form.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I like the 'sources indicate' caveat at the beginning!
According to his apology, Kyle is with us for the rest of the season. This is also what the Chief Exec said in the RL press last week. It could all be BS of course.'"
As I said to your mate Wanderer, it's similar to the Chris Ashton situation in many ways, not least in the two players attitudes, but she was was so stupid she couldn't or wouldn't see it.
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| If he's going, as seems likely, I'd rather him go now.
Rightly or wrongly, he has now incurred the wrath of a large proportion of the fans and this can't be healthy as the season progresses.
Thanks for the few memories, Kyle - but I hope you're an absolute failure in the other code. Mind you, I guess you'll live with being a rich failure.
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| As an aside, if a player leaves during a season can the club then use up his wage on the cap?
Given that Kyle has been offered a new contract by Saints his current contract can't be that big, which will limit the amount you could spend on a replacement.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"As an aside, if a player leaves during a season can the club then use up his wage on the cap?
Given that Kyle has been offered a new contract by Saints his current contract can't be that big, which will limit the amount you could spend on a replacement.'"
Pretty sure you can use the cap space.
Kyle's current contract is certainly not small fry - he's alleged to have wanted Longy's deal to sign the 2 year extension a season ago. He's not a low earner - we'll have the space to bring in a top replacement, the problem is who is available to recruit?
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| Quote ="Cragganmore Kid"Pretty sure you can use the cap space.
Kyle's current contract is certainly not small fry - he's alleged to have wanted Longy's deal to sign the 2 year extension a season ago. He's not a low earner - we'll have the space to bring in a top replacement, the problem is who is available to recruit?'"
You definitely can. We could deregister him, pay him in full and still have the room on the cap.
As you say its about who is available. There has been talk about Luke Gale at Quins. If we receive compo from Bath it would be enough you'd expect to get a young player like that on board. Or we could wait until an NRL player falls out of favour or disgraces himself. It always happens mid season.
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| I cant see us getting much compo for him if he goes now....its a buyers market, Bath can just sit tight for 6 months and get him for free, and I am sure that Saints (Royce in particular) will be keen to get any disruptive influences out of the club as soon as possible.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"If he were to stay, fantastic. We can kick on from there. If on Monday he announces he is leaving now, again that is fine as we can then spend a whole season mercilessly tapping up some gun replacement, or sign Luke Gale.
What I was wondering is if he announces he is going at the end of the season because Bath aren't willing to compensate Saints, what would people think of moving him back to centre? I hate the idea of basing your side around a player who is leaving, but playing centre requires far less focus and we could utilise his pace much more easily from there?'"
Put him in the reserves. He's had one chance too many of blackmail and is a total disruption to the team. Before you ask I feel the same about Jammer in some ways, but he is not blackmailing us and is not direspecting the fans.
How come on exactly the same salary cap warrington don't have the same blackmail /players wanting to leave problems?
Can barely rite this as mine nuckles are draggin on the flor. Now if i cud find me pass port thingy.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"He's had one chance too many of blackmail and is a total disruption to the team. Now if i cud find me pass port thingy.'"
It's in the doings, thingy watsit next to the stair lift on the second floor
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| Anybody notice young Ben Karalius the Acadamy Number 7 was out warming up with the first team last night?
Giving him a taster possibly?
( P.S This may have already been mentioned but can't be bothered looking )
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You definitely can. We could deregister him, pay him in full and still have the room on the cap.
As you say its about who is available. There has been talk about Luke Gale at Quins. If we receive compo from Bath it would be enough you'd expect to get a young player like that on board. Or we could wait until an NRL player falls out of favour or disgraces himself. It always happens mid season.'"
I hope you don't get Gale, he's a genuine talent. It'd be bad for Super League if Quins continued to let their best players leave.
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| Quote ="P-J"I hope you don't get Gale, he's a genuine talent. It'd be bad for Super League if Quins continued to let their best players leave.'"
I agree. We need to stick with our own young players.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I agree. We need to stick with our own young players.'"
Good to see some common sense! what good is it for the game if the first option is to go and raid the one club that needs good players to survive, it was bad enough losing LMS!
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