I'm not sure, it seems they make up the rules as they go along.

The walmsley one is disgusting IMO when just last week nobody was banned for the punch up in the Leeds v Leigh game and the was more players in.

Like I said, not got a clue on the Roby situation.

I feel sorry for him. He gets no good ball at all and used like a prop. It's no coincidence we've not seen the Manu from hull rampaging down the flanks making breaks.

I think with Walsh with us this year and when Manu gets fit, we might see a glimpse of the old Manu.

A grade B is 1-2 matches but there is always the panel's discretion to award a fine or to find the player not guilty. They found Robes guilty but presumably not guilty enough to ban him, or took his previous record into account. The detail isn't on the website yet but if you're obsessed with it and are prepared to wait, in a few days the explanation will be posted on the RFL's site. It always is.

I remember the incident because Elima drew attention to it. Makes me laugh that it was Elima. He doesn't go a season without at least one ban.

What hatred is that?

Im not obsessed with it but just want clarity as it doesn't make sense, like i said grade a and i wouldn't question it but grade b is a minimum of 1 game. Be interesting to see the new exemption they make for this or will they use the "exemplary previous discipline record" (not suggesting Roby doesn't).

Who hates him???

It was one, probably throw away comment, more about Greenwood coming back than Manu.

If I had said Greenwood was dropped for Wellens the comment replying to me could have been the same.

Why not drop the pudding for Thompson or Saveilo or Richards or walker?

Surely 11 hit ups in two games and no one on one tackles must warrant being dropped ?

How did a thread about Roby and walmsley being up before the beak become about masoe and Manu?

A question was asked about why was Greenwood not playing in Catalan. I answered suggesting with Manu available that it was likely he was stood down for that game.

Then it all went big bannana with some very heavy reading between the lines into a hatred of Manu to be forced out the team.

2.8 SENTENCING GUIDELINES FOR EACH GRADE OF OFFENCE

GRADE NORMAL SUSPENSION
RANGE
A NFA -1
B 1 – 2
C 2 -3
D 3-5
E 4-8
F 8+ or period suspension


2.9 NORMAL SUSPENSION RANGES – GUIDELINES ONLY

Players and Clubs should be aware that the normal suspension ranges are guidelines only and the
Tribunal has the discretion to step outside of the normal ranges in the following three
circumstances:

- If the Compliance Manager has advised the Player that, in the light of specified aggravating
factors, he is going to seek a higher sanction and the Tribunal agree that such factors mean a
higher sanction should be imposed;
- If the Tribunal has previously advised the Player that it will apply a higher sanction next time
that Player is found to have committed a misconduct Offence; or
- If the Tribunal feels that in the light of the aggravating and mitigating factors present it is
appropriate to step outside of the normal suspension range (irrespective of whether this has
been requested by the Compliance Manager).


Guidelines only according to RFL website.

Hatred was perhaps too strong a word to use.

However Manu certainly is lacking in love on these boards, and has been since signing for us.

The comment wasn't particularly aimed at this thread, but a general pattern in which the likes of Flanagan and Soliola are lauded, while Wilkin and Manu are degraded.

Similarly LMS comes in for loads of stick by a wide number of people, yet when it comes to Masoe there is only Pete and one or two others criticizing his performances. The rest all come across as being in awe of his one decent run a game.

Good to see they have a get out clause of being consistent, Thanks for explaining it better.

Oh for gods sake, did you really need to ask that question? you can not look at what was reported and see for yourself?

Incidents are not the same no matter how anyone want's to portray them. And records are not the same, regardless of what fantasy people live in.

It's funny how you compare the Walmsley one, because he got banned, but don't mention the Roby one, which went without ban for the same reasons as Peacock.

The problem with this season is us fans just can't seem to decide on who the scapegoat is. I thought it was developing into LMS but then people keep derailing it to other players. Come on posters, pick a scapegoat and stick with it. This is confusing the team when nobody knows who the scapegoat is to pile all the blame onto.

Don't you think that several names have been picked out for poor performances actually states the obvious? The whole team except the odd player are playing poor.

My point is, why can LMS, Turner, wello, flash etc yet the big pudding doesn't?

Someone said drop Manu next week because he was poor, he's been out 8 weeks yet the pudding still getting away with doing nothing over half eat through the season.

I think there is a growing obsession of certain fans on here who are over critical,
Fan A = LMS, Fan B = Wello, Fan C = Wilkin, Fan D = Mose, Fan E = Brown. You all know who you are, its OK having an opinion but the repetiveness is turning into a bitch feast something similarly to VT.
Players have good, bad, average performances over varying periods of time, sometimes players are tactically not used efficiently in a game, some play with injuries.
A true fan will support the saints shirt and whoever wears it at the time, most fans make there point without having to repetively force there opinion on others...........otherwise its boring.

And some players are just outright lazy and don't care win or lose. When I pay good money to watch and support the club then that's the thing I expect of every player in respect of ability

And some fans sit on their high horse making a fool of themselves!


Eh up. It's the 'true fan' rubbish again. Supporting a team isn't about saying they're all great all the time. It's about turning up at matches whenever money and opportunity arises. Criticism is perfectly valid just as it is when us mere mortals don't perform in our workplaces to the standard expected of us.

There is a difference between Dogmatic Ranting and Crticism, I think I would prefer the opinions of the late Minnie Cotton.

Some people criticise via dogmatic ranting; others do it in a more subtle fashion. It isn't for you to lecture anyone.

It could be

Nah. I think not.

What if he's a lecturer though?

Then he needs to keep his lecturing in the lecture hall!

Well the deflection seems to be working 9 messages from post and we,ve not criticised a player to date.