Do you think Soliola's challenge was worse than Bowen's?

Stuart Cummins is a prat. Bowens was much worse but Soliola has the disadvantage of not playing in Cherry and White and not having a WCC game coming up so he may end up with a ban

Cummins did.
They were both worthy of a ban IMO.

Do you think Soliola's challenge was worse than Bowen's?

I disagree on that score. It was Westwood's run which drew Percy in, but Westwood actually ended up hitting the line inside Wheeler, so there was no way he should have come in. I don't want to come across like I'm giving him grief; he's a young kid and is bound to have things that need work. I thought he had a good game overall.

On the high tackles, Wilkin and Turner's were both reaction shots, so penalty sufficient. Sia's was a poor one, though, and I'd have no problem with him being banned.

He's not gonna give you a straight answer. We all know and he knows the Bowen one was worse as he jumps up. No ban for him. No ban for Sia. Anything else will be a joke. RFL in lack of consistency shocker. All over again!

Soliola is a fair, hard player.

Bowen is and always has been a dirty little scrote.

Bowens was ten times worse, you could see the intent.

Even after they let Bowen off? How can that be justified?

He certainly signed for the right team then. He'll fit right in.

Rogues not answering a question but instead just talking crap shocker !!!

It's dodgy, there's no question about it. Bowen blatantly got off the hook because of the WCC. But I don't think it would be good for anyone if we start letting anything go from now on because of it.

Am I the only one that doesn't think the Sia tackle was that bad? Yeah, it was high, but Monaghan was straight back up, Sia isn't a dirty player, and it was Round 1. Players are bound to be a bit rusty, and there was no intent in the tackle.

Good aggressive performance by the Saints pack who simply had too much for the Wire pack. Wire will miss Morley and Carvell probably more than they will miss Briers. Looking at the recruitment at Saints I tipped them to win at least one trophy this year. Great signing in Walsh , Masoe and one Leeds should never have let go in Amor. I think Wire will be better with Ratchford in the halves instead of fullback once Russell is fit. Hopefully they put in the same performance next Friday. Well done Saints great to see you back to form.

It wasnt that bad at all , it's just people are listening to the Sky idiots too much and trying to sanitise the game (banning the shoulder charge is an example).

They just need to change the rules to allow a ref to put a player in the sinbin for tackles like that.

It was a head high shot, there is no arguement about that, what we are now arguing is the relative actions taken.

If Bowen had been banned, then no one would argue that Sia would need one too. The difficulty is they have set the example and drawn the line in the wrong place.

If tackles get much higher they will just miss. How can you get a red for a high tackle given the 2 we have seen so far?? It's not about whether the fella gets back up. Hit a different fella, he will get knocked out. It's got to be about where you hit not how well the other guy gets back up.

Thinking back to the GB game years ago where Morley got sent off after 10 seconds, what's the difference?

I don't think Sia was malicious, he just got it all wrong, but Bowen was high, late and on a man without a ball. If they let that go, it is open season.

Back on topic, I do beleive they wore Leg Greaves Armor. Which would cover from below the knee to ankle. But I'll accept it was more his fighting skills than his man mountainness.

Maybe Ajax would have been more appropriate for the size, element, but it would have been hard to find a play the ball equivalent.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

No, but if they deem that Bowen's wasn't worthy of a ban, I can't see how they can think Soliola's was.

But one mistake by the panel shouldn't have to mean we descend into anarchy.
We all know they just wanted Bowen to be available for the WCC. Let's just get on with it.

If Sia cops a 1 match ban, we can't be too outraged.

Not outraged. Aggrieved maybe?

Once a court sets a precedent ruling it must follow it ... Whether it was right or wrong.

What fools soliola is the fact the Warrington player stops half a yard in front of him, which means his bear hug tackle catches him on the cheek - it was bicep as opposed to forearm and I've seen a lot worse.

Would be a little aggrieved given Bowen but can see it getting 1 game to appease those baying for blood.

Does sia have his early guilty plea still?

I'm not angry with you, disciplinary committee, just disappointed.

In all honesty I don't think sia's was that bad tbh, you see shots like that every week which I'm not condoning but stadler and Waldorf on sky were screaming blue murder along with Cummings. At worst it was a mis-timed hard hit from a player who plays the game hard. The Bowen one was late and should've copped a ban but that said with him being involved in the WCC that was never gonna happen, had we not have been playing Roosters I would have expected 1-2 matches. The other thing is the Superleague franchise are wanting us to turn the Aussies over for our game over here so to ban a top drawer player in the team representing our brand would be rugby suicide. But I do agree with everyone regarding the RFL setting there stall out and what's good for one is good for another. Anyway best game in the world, Rd1 for the rest of the league and look at the controversy already!!! Great win saints!!!

I don,t think the tackle was all that bad, if you slow the motion right down first point of contact is the top of chest and shoulder rising up to the neck region. Hopefully the disciplinary will see it that way and not be influenced by the overzealous commentary.

Walsh did well Fair do's. But he's a long way to go before he's in the same class as people like Matty Smith.