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| Quote ="Rommel"Just read on Twitter there both at an hearing tonight?
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| Quote ="RedVeeSte"So they havent taken the EGP?'"
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| Quote ="Rommel"No must fancy there chances
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I have a feeling Wellens will get off but lefrenchie won't.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I have a feeling Wellens will get off but lefrenchie won't.
Didn't Wellens miss the last Good Friday derby at KR?'"
Wellens should. I think Laffranchi would be unlucky to get a 2 match ban as well. It's his first referral here and it wasn't a bad spear. Before this season it would have been a classic 'letter about technique' case. The legs aren't lifted high and he lands on his back. |
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Quote ="SaintsFan"What a load of rubbish. If it had been our players upended on their heads you would have been bleating like mad if Wire had been let off. They were both bad tackles, regardless of whether they were deliberate or simply reckless. They both deserve bans because they both involved putting a player on their head. That is dangerous even when it's a Wire player being put on their head. (If it had been Wigan players, of course, that would have improved them no end)'"
I have not seen the incidents so could not say whether there was intent or not, whether they where dangerous or not. But just because you feel they are deserving of a ban does not make it the actual penalty that will be given.
You have to take into account player records even if they are found guilty and intent is also a factor in the penalty given.
My point is Wellens has an excellent record and so will probably not recieve the full 2 matches. If there is a lack of intent, then he may not get one match. You may feel that all these types of tackles deserve a certain penalty but the justice system does not work that way.
Hence Brent webb shoving a ref which carries a 3 match ban, was found guilty, but due to a lack of intent and an excellent prior record, just got a fine. So taking this as a marker you can see why Wellens if he is found guilty may not be banned. It about what the court is likely to do not what we would do.
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3406
So if a more serious offence can be reduced to a fine due to no priors I would expect the same for Wello. I have no idea of La Franki's previous records hence can't say what mitigation he may get.
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Quote ="SaintsFan"What a load of rubbish. If it had been our players upended on their heads you would have been bleating like mad if Wire had been let off. They were both bad tackles, regardless of whether they were deliberate or simply reckless. They both deserve bans because they both involved putting a player on their head. That is dangerous even when it's a Wire player being put on their head. (If it had been Wigan players, of course, that would have improved them no end)'"
I have not seen the incidents so could not say whether there was intent or not, whether they where dangerous or not. But just because you feel they are deserving of a ban does not make it the actual penalty that will be given.
You have to take into account player records even if they are found guilty and intent is also a factor in the penalty given.
My point is Wellens has an excellent record and so will probably not recieve the full 2 matches. If there is a lack of intent, then he may not get one match. You may feel that all these types of tackles deserve a certain penalty but the justice system does not work that way.
Hence Brent webb shoving a ref which carries a 3 match ban, was found guilty, but due to a lack of intent and an excellent prior record, just got a fine. So taking this as a marker you can see why Wellens if he is found guilty may not be banned. It about what the court is likely to do not what we would do.
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3406
So if a more serious offence can be reduced to a fine due to no priors I would expect the same for Wello. I have no idea of La Franki's previous records hence can't say what mitigation he may get.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows" I have no idea of La Franki's previous records hence can't say what mitigation he may get.
All this is based on a guilty verdict too, and they may get found not guilty.'"
If I were a betting man I'd put money on them both receiving no ban if they were isolated incidents. BUT with two players from the club being up and Wigan crying about their squad and trying to influence the decision, I doubt both will escape. If it's true that Wellens has never been banned before he has a decent chance. But I suspect that will mean Laffranchi cops one game.
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Quote ="Saddened!"If I were a betting man I'd put money on them both receiving no ban if they were isolated incidents. BUT with two players from the club being up and Wigan crying about their squad and trying to influence the decision, I doubt both will escape. If it's true that Wellens has never been banned before he has a decent chance. But I suspect that will mean Laffranchi cops one game.
It will be mighty interesting to see how much club bias there is on the panel this week as well, =#FF0000does anyone know who it is? Wigan are very often well represented.'"
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Quote ="Saddened!"If I were a betting man I'd put money on them both receiving no ban if they were isolated incidents. BUT with two players from the club being up and Wigan crying about their squad and trying to influence the decision, I doubt both will escape. If it's true that Wellens has never been banned before he has a decent chance. But I suspect that will mean Laffranchi cops one game.
It will be mighty interesting to see how much club bias there is on the panel this week as well, =#FF0000does anyone know who it is? Wigan are very often well represented.'"
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According to the rota it is George Formby, Richard Ashcroft and a Pooles Meat and Tater pie tonight.
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Boof will get two then,worse than Wellos.
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| Actually hold the front page,misleading tweets from Saints at the moment.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"What a load of rubbish. If it had been our players upended on their heads you would have been bleating like mad if Wire had been let off. They were both bad tackles, regardless of whether they were deliberate or simply reckless. They both deserve bans because they both involved putting a player on their head. That is dangerous even when it's a Wire player being put on their head. [u(If it had been Wigan players, of course, that would have improved them no end)[/u'"
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| Wellens will be a big loss if any potential appeal fails. He has been more than solid in the last three games and we'll miss his experience (and refereeing  ). |
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Official SL Twitter account confirms Wellens one game ban.'"
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| Quote ="MickeyMo"Wellens will be a big loss if any potential appeal fails. He has been more than solid in the last three games and we'll miss his experience (and refereeing
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He's a loss but we've just got to get on with it. He broke the rules and IMO rightly is paying the price.
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| Quote ="St pete"He's a loss but we've just got to get on with it. He broke the rules and IMO rightly is paying the price.
It's not bad when we can move makinson in who is more than a good enough replacement.'"
Three or four weeks ago I'd have agreed but Wellens has been playing out of his skin recently. It's his experience and ability to read the game we will miss. I like Makinson and I think he will be a stalwart of the team in future but I'd prefer Wello there given the choice. Maybe we can utilise Tommy's pace there. Lafrannchi will be a big loss too - he's settling in now.
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| Quote ="MickeyMo"Three or four weeks ago I'd have agreed but Wellens has been playing out of his skin recently. It's his experience and ability to read the game we will miss. I like Makinson and I think he will be a stalwart of the team in future but I'd prefer Wello there given the choice. Maybe we can utilise Tommy's pace there. Lafrannchi will be a big loss too - he's settling in now.
Any news on appeals?'"
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Ridiculous to ban Wellens for that given his previous record. He should appeal. It looks far worse than it was, Wellens wasn't intending to tombstone him, it was a freak occurance. Laffranchi's is harsh as well.
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Wello decision has been appealed. I just hope he didn't register the appeal in the same way he greets decisions against us on the field.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I have not seen the incidents so could not say whether there was intent or not, whether they where dangerous or not. '"
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Then you aren't really in a position to comment are you?'"
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You seem very confrontational at the moment dear. Time of the month?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You seem very confrontational at the moment dear. Time of the month?
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