If you get a chance, please read his book. I borrowed it from a friend and it was very good read.

Like a lot of people he made mistakes in his life, sadly it looks as though when he lost his career (through his own fault) and the other problems occurred he couldn't handle it.

I hope everyone respects the minutes silence, if not for Newton, then for his parents (god only knows how they must be feeling) wife and children.

I thought Paul Wellens spoke excellently about Newton, when interviewed. If he can show that dignified response then I hope all the fans can do so for one minute on Saturday.

It's the kids I feel for the most, they can't be that old given his age and must be having major difficulty processing the whole situation. Whatever peoples personal feelings about him, his only relationship with most of us was that he was an RL player that played for an opposing team and I hope people aren't idiotic enough to boo over something that happened 5 years ago

Im assuming nothing. He was battling depression. I know what its like for people who suffer depression so im not going to start throwing cr@p at him saying things like "hes left his children behind, hes a chicken etc etc"

You stated in your first post he was suffering from clinical depression. Unless you know his GP's diagnosis, you would have to be assuming. All depression isn't clinical depression. Some despression is acute depression, triggered by an event or by unaddressed underlying feelings. Either way, he did leave behind loved ones and they are the ones I really feel for because suicide is terribly destructive.

I think it would be fine if it wasnt the Grand Final
but because it is, there will be a good few idiots there who are not true rugby league supporters, just going for the occasion which could ruin it.

Would be gerat to be proved wrong but I reckon the minutes applause would be a better idea

There'll be plenty of 'true rugby league' supporters who'll make noise, don't kid yourself on that score.

I think you under estimate RL fans.
If there is any booing or whatever I would imagine it will be the one game a year fans who only attend finals.

I apologise for not being a regular but the affordability factor is an issue as well as supporting the footy teams. I have total respect as we all have flaws sometimes in our life but don't get caught. After watching an interview a few weeks ago understand were he is coming from. It must be real tough in the sports world, I would not like to think the pressure they are under. Hope his family and friends get the support they need.

I just prey that no matter what happens regarding the result , that the minutes silence goes without an hitch, but TBH i cant see it , shame a real shame.

Ditto

The man deserves respect.

He left 2 young children and a wife.

Life is about more than rugby.

Correct



Just a plea.
If some numbnuts decide to disrespect the silence then leave them to it. It will only make matters worse if we all start shouting "shut up" etc

It will also make it easier to identify them and hopefully get them ejected.

I agree.

I hated Newton, absolutely hated the bloke as a rugby player because I knew he would do whatever it took to see Wigan win the game. Many people feel the word 'hate' is too strong, it isn't. I hated him on the field for Wigan. However, the key point is that there is a difference between a rugby pitch and life. As much as I hated him as a player, I would never ever wish anybody to feel so low that they need to end their life. It is made all the more tragic because he had young children. He was a fine foe and the pantomine villain and that is all. He was clearly a good man, the people who knew him that have spoken since his death have shown this. For me the RFL should be ashamed for leaving people in his situatuon out in the cold and I hope the game learns from it.

I feel that tomorrow will give the opportunity for decent people to show respect, as I and the majority will do so. However there will be the numpties who don't. All that will show is the idiotics in life who have have no common decency whatsoever. Furthermore, I suspect Newton would have loved it and he'll be up there praying it helps Wigan to victory.

Life is a competition and Newton lived it. Lets hope the game pulls together and respects the man and the player.

I will be honouring the minutes silence, Terry Newton wore his heart on his sleeve and put everything he had into a game of rugby league, I didnt agree with everything he did but one cant deny his committment to the sport.
RIP Terry.

I have no issue with the rest of your post, but this bit is balls. He was found to be cheating and was subsequently banned, quite correctly. His situation was created by himself and no one else, this was no accident or untimely end to his career through injury. He cheated and was caught.

I've been away and have been catching up on the last few weeks of Boots and All - The Tries, on the latest edition Terry O'Connor states that he had been in regular contact with him and had spoken to him as recently as the Saturday prior to his death, and that Newton had seemed fine to him in all that contact. If his own close mates did not have an inclining of what he was contemplating, why should the RFL be ashamed of what happened? If he has problems it is down to him and his family to seek appropriate help, possibly even his club, not the RFL. If, as has apparently been reported, he had already been on anti depressants then he was already seeing a doctor about it anyway, what should the RFL have done?

What a strange post, "The man deserves respect. He left 2 young children and a wife."

If he deserves respect for anything, it most certainly isn't for leaving 2 young children and a wife, unless they really are better off without him?

would just like to thank the saints fans for the minute silence,it was very qiute in the saint ends

I was thinking the same thing. Very odd post indeed but i think it's safe to say he must have been pretty ill to go and do what he did.

I have the deepest sympathy for his family

I was dreading the minutes silence, and expected Saints' fan base to be tarnished by the actions of a sizeable proportion of an ale fuelled crowd.

Gladly as fans we were magnificent, despite the fact that the majority of us despised the guy on the field for some of the most blatant and premeditated acts of thuggery I've ever seen in a game of RL.

Fantastic that, despite the drink and the emotion of the occasion, we were able to rise above a cheap shot which would have seriously damaged the rep. of the club and realise that the rugby player doesn't necessarily represent the man.

As above, deepest sympathy for the family.

I'm amazed at just how many people from Saints and elsewhere underestimated our fan base. I wasn't at all surprised that we honoured the minute's silence so perfectly because we always do, more often than not for people we have never even heard of never mind seen play!

Slightly off topic but Terry Newton related.

What a fantastic gesture by Adrian Morley yesterday to be one of the "carriers" of Newtons coffin.

The funeral was at 2 p.m. and the England players were due to fly out New Zealand yesterday.

I was worried about the "two games a season" crowd, who orchestrated the Newton chants each time he faced us. Not the real rugby fans, there was never a doubt they'd behave impeccably whatever their personal thoughts on Newton.



Aye, we'd heard of Newton alright. He was the guy who put paid to Saints GF hopes in 2005 with some disgraceful acts of thuggery, because his own team were being knocked out by us.

That was exactly the reason I was concerned of a beer fuelled reaction from a loud minority.

Did all the england players delay flying to New Zealand yesterday or was it just Morley?

I think they all flew in the evening as O'Loughlin was also at Newtons funeral.

Fielden has also delayed his departure on a brighter note as his wife is due to give birth any time now! Should have been induced Wednesday but this has been delayed.