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| Quote ="St pete"Chill mate, lovestospooge is ok. I don't think he's trying to be funny but just giving his honest opinion.'"
I think he makes a fair point too.
Foster isn't a speedster, he doesn't have a big sidestep like Lomax for example and he doesn't break tackles because he isn't particularly big either. But, he is a very reliable player, he's tough, he's become a good defender who positions himself better than he used to (gained with experience), he's a good finisher and now his confidence is up, his goal kicking is top drawer. He also shows moments of excellent skill e.g. his try at Leeds. He also doesn't miss many games like some of our other youngsters - so he's durable too. He's becoming a good first team player and whilst I don't think he'll ever be a stand out player, he's good with the outstanding ability to kick goals.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"All I'm saying is I don't see anything special about Foster, other than excellent kicking game. If you compare him with Jermaine Mcgilvray at Huddesfield, who's far less experienced than Foster. McGilvary is the far better player IMO. His kick returns and general play are far more dangerous to the opposistion than what Foster ever offers.'"
Far less experienced? A mighty 6 SL games less than Foster over 2 years?
No place in this league for solid wingers who finish well and kick goals. Unless they play for Wigan, in which case they become Man Of Steel contenders.
p.s. Mcgilvray busts more tackles and makes more clean breaks than Pat too if you go by JM's 2011 stats and PR's "Man Of Steel" winning 2010 season; I suppose you could say "his kick returns and general play are far more dangerous to the opposistion than what Richards ever offers".
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| On Mr Roby, according to league express, on friday he did 46 tackles, 192 metres in 35 carries, each the highest of any player on the pitch
oh and Saints only did one quick play the ball all game, wigan did 4, wigan returning to the scooter hooker?
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Quote ="Blobbynator"I think he makes a fair point too.
Foster isn't a speedster, he doesn't have a big sidestep like Lomax for example and he doesn't break tackles because he isn't particularly big either. But, he is a very reliable player, he's tough, he's become a good defender who positions himself better than he used to (gained with experience), he's a good finisher and now his confidence is up, his goal kicking is top drawer. He also shows moments of excellent skill e.g. his try at Leeds. He also doesn't miss many games like some of our other youngsters - so he's durable too. He's becoming a good first team player and whilst I don't think he'll ever be a stand out player, he's good with the outstanding ability to kick goals.'"
Daryl Halligan at the Doggies.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Halligan
ok winger awesome kicker!
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Quote ="Blobbynator"I think he makes a fair point too.
Foster isn't a speedster, he doesn't have a big sidestep like Lomax for example and he doesn't break tackles because he isn't particularly big either. But, he is a very reliable player, he's tough, he's become a good defender who positions himself better than he used to (gained with experience), he's a good finisher and now his confidence is up, his goal kicking is top drawer. He also shows moments of excellent skill e.g. his try at Leeds. He also doesn't miss many games like some of our other youngsters - so he's durable too. He's becoming a good first team player and whilst I don't think he'll ever be a stand out player, he's good with the outstanding ability to kick goals.'"
Daryl Halligan at the Doggies.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Halligan
ok winger awesome kicker!
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| Quote ="St pete"Bit of a donkey tho IMO'"
"In rugby league Halligan was renowned as a fine goalkicker, his 855 first grade goals coming at an impressive 80% success rate. He was the first person to score 2,000 points in the NRL. At the time of his retirement he held the competition point-scoring record at 2,034 points. He also scored 80 tries, and kicked 4 field goals."
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| Quote ="TheJudge""In rugby league Halligan was renowned as a fine goalkicker, his 855 first grade goals coming at an impressive 80% success rate. He was the first person to score 2,000 points in the NRL. At the time of his retirement he held the competition point-scoring record at 2,034 points. He also scored 80 tries, and kicked 4 field goals."
From Wiki'"
I'm a bulldogs fan and can recall him very well. He was pretty slow tho and teams started kicking behind him all the time.
He was pure points machine tho!
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| All im saying in that 27 appearances (3 as a sub) for Saints Jamie Foster has scored 16 tries and kicked 119 goals already for 302 points.
9 tries already this season How is that the sign of a weak link or bad player?
With reg to Halligan, only scored 80 odd tries over a very long career but was deadly with the boot, invaluable to any team.
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| Quote ="TheJudge"All im saying in that 27 appearances (3 as a sub) for Saints Jamie Foster has scored 16 tries and kicked 119 goals already for 302 points.
9 tries already this season How is that the sign of a weak link or bad player?
With reg to Halligan, only scored 80 odd tries over a very long career but was deadly with the boot, invaluable to any team.'"
302 points in 27 games is a unbelievable return!
Does anyone know when his contract is up?
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| And if foster continues in this form and stays injury free he will reach 2000 points for saints in 179 games.
Points Machine, rather have him than be on the end of his scoring.
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| oh and Sean Long averaged 8.22 points per game for Saints over his career, Foster currently at 11.18.
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| We have lost so many games over the years due to not having a goalkicker, it is so important against good teams. He is easily good enough to be playing out there whilst we make use of his kicking talent, and still has a lot of development both physically and skillfully.
However, will he be willing to gain a shedload of muscle if this will affect his Beckham-like appearance?
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| Quote ="St pete"302 points in 27 games is a unbelievable return!
Does anyone know when his contract is up?'"
End of next season.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"End of next season.'"
We should get him signed up now before union come sniffing
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| Quote ="St pete"We should get him signed up now before union come sniffing'"
Agreed, a solid 4 or 5 year contract would do nicely. I think he's done enough and shown plenty potential to be included in saints' future plans.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Agreed, a solid 4 or 5 year contract would do nicely. I think he's done enough and shown plenty potential to be included in saints' future plans.'"
I think your right but I expect it to be at the expense of Gardner ..
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"I think your right but I expect it to be at the expense of Gardner ..'"
IMO it's good business by saints and that's not taking anything away from gardners current form.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"I think your right but I expect it to be at the expense of Gardner ..'"
I would think that the emerence of Foster will mean the end of Gardner's stay at Saints, especially since we seem to have a bit of depth to back him up. He'll get a decent contract elsewhere in superleague, mind, so don't worry Ade.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Far less experienced? A mighty 6 SL games less than Foster over 2 years?'"
Mcgilvray played basketball until he was 18, and tuck up rugby league after that. In comparison Foster has been playing the game since the age of 14. I'd say that's a pretty big difference in experience between the two of them.
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p.s. Mcgilvray busts more tackles and makes more clean breaks than Pat too if you go by JM's 2011 stats and PR's "Man Of Steel" winning 2010 season; I suppose you could say "his kick returns and general play are far more dangerous to the opposistion than what Richards ever offers".'"
Mcgilvray has been the standout winger in SL for me so far, so his stats don't surprise me one bit. The fact that Jermaine's stats hold up so well against Pat the best winger in SL, just goes to show what a good player Mcgilvray is. The same however can't be said for Foster when compared to either Pat or Jermaine, his stats are far less impressive. Well apart from the goal kicking one's, but you'd expect that from a goal kicking one trick pony.
I don't want this to appear as though I've got something against Foster because I haven't. Although his hair is pretty gay. I simply asked the original question wondering if you tuck Fosters superb kicking game off him, does he posses anymore strings to his bow. And to be honest I got the answer I expected, solid in all departments but superb in none. But hell you can make a career out of that, just ask Ade Gardner or our own Darrel Goulding.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Mcgilvray played basketball until he was 18, and tuck up rugby league after that. In comparison Foster has been playing the game since the age of 14. I'd say that's a pretty big difference in experience between the two of them.'"
Wow, I didn't know that! That's pretty impressive, fair play.
Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Mcgilvray has been the standout winger in SL for me so far, so his stats don't surprise me one bit. The fact that Jermaine's stats hold up so well against Pat the best winger in SL, just goes to show what a good player Mcgilvray is. The same however can't be said for Foster when compared to either Pat or Jermaine, his stats are far less impressive. Well apart from the goal kicking one's, but you'd expect that from a goal kicking one trick pony.
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Quote ="LovesToSpooge"I don't want this to appear as though I've got something against Foster because I haven't. Although his hair is pretty gay. I simply asked the original question wondering if you tuck Fosters superb kicking game off him, does he posses anymore strings to his bow. And to be honest I got the answer I expected, solid in all departments but superb in none. But hell you can make a career out of that, just ask Ade Gardner or our own Darrel Goulding.'"
I'd say from what I've seen he's a superb finisher and goal kicker, solid elsewhere. Superb finisher is a pretty good start for a winger IMO.
He's a better rugby player than Gardner/Goulding - he has very good hands and reads the game well; I can see him as a SL centre or full back in years to come, especially when he fills out. I wouldn't say the same of Gardner/Goulding who are limited wingers who couldn't really perform elsewhere to any decent standard IMO.
We'll see I suppose, but he's making a good fist of it at the moment.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Wow, I didn't know that! That's pretty impressive, fair play.
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I didn't know it until a couple of weeks ago, but they mentioned it before the Giants Wire game. So I saved it to the memory bank.
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| pound for pound roby is easily the best player in the league and is one of the very few that does not go down easy, it always seems to take a least 3 to 4 players to take him down
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Mcgilvray played basketball until he was 18, and tuck up rugby league after that. In comparison Foster has been playing the game since the age of 14. I'd say that's a pretty big difference in experience between the two of them.
Mcgilvray has been the standout winger in SL for me so far, so his stats don't surprise me one bit. The fact that Jermaine's stats hold up so well against Pat the best winger in SL, just goes to show what a good player Mcgilvray is. The same however can't be said for Foster when compared to either Pat or Jermaine, his stats are far less impressive. Well apart from the goal kicking one's, but you'd expect that from a goal kicking one trick pony.
I don't want this to appear as though I've got something against Foster because I haven't. Although his hair is pretty gay. I simply asked the original question wondering if you tuck Fosters superb kicking game off him, does he posses anymore strings to his bow. And to be honest I got the answer I expected, solid in all departments but superb in none. But hell you can make a career out of that, just ask Ade Gardner or our own Darrel Goulding.'"
If I had to pick between McGilvary & Foster I'd pick Foster. No bias at all. If you only rate a player on how many times he goes the full length of the field then you're about 12 years old or a bit simple.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Mcgilvray played basketball until he was 18, '"
Actually, that was put to him on Boots'n'All one week and he said he played soccer, not basketball.
Not that it matters, but I just thought I'd say ...
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Actually, that was put to him on Boots'n'All one week and he said he played soccer, not basketball.
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He did, I saw it myself.
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