I remember them all yes. Your point? Potter and Simmons have been poor appointments.

I also mentioned Anderson.

How is not catching a ball with no one around you a forced error?

Wellens whining face put us off?
Gardners facial hair?
Sia's normal face?

Yep, we had the odd blip under Anderson , sadly they were in GF's. At least they were against quality opposition, nothing like that shambles in Bradford

How do you think we feel? Everytime a saints player looks at Joel Monaghan they think of him getting a BJ off a dog.

Now that's off putting

Or Briers mid life crisis hairdo ..

You can call wello, Gardner or any saints player but leave sia alone, he's my bro.

The things I have seen so far under Mike and Kieron that have not been there previously have been passion, aggression and determination.
I don't think we should have any doubts about Good Friday because over the past two games Saints have;
1. Outplayed the superleague and world club champions.
2. Beaten the in form team that came from behind to beat Wigan last week.
If Saints can produce the same explosive start by the forwards on Good Friday and back it up with some expansive flair in the backs coupled with some pure grit in defence I can't see any reason as to why it won't be six points from three games and a great end to what was a poor thread of six.

We're not, honestly we are just not, we're the luckiest team of the last few weeks but in form, we are certainly not.

I would agree with you there. You are not the same team as you were last year, but Leeds were pants for most of last season and managed to win the GF. So there is plenty of time for Wire to get their collective heads on right and start to fire up again.

Oh I'm not worried yet, in fact in a perverse way this loss will make a few of our players have a long hard look at each other and actually be beneficial.

bradford worked wonders on us!

And hull kr, hull, Catalan, hudds .....

I could argue that Saints were lucky to get so many knock on's from Wire tonight but would prefer to say as a team we forced them.

Our loss to Leeds was one of those that could have gone either way, and we gained easy yards even when under the cosh which made us believe it was just one of those nights when someone had to lose, we learned nothing from it.

Last week v Wigan should have been the wake up call, we gained 2 points i thought we had no right to take.
Trouble is i think they just accepted the win and went out on the lash to celebrate and didn't take in their failings.

This week they have been embarrassed and i'd like to think TS will give them a serious going over this week.



You didn't though, we were on the Brainfart central to losersville tonight, very few errors were forced which is our main frustration.

Saints' start to the game put Wire under an awful lot of pressure. Pressure they responded poorly to, panicking and trying to score from every play without building the required pressure on the line first.

We're playing the same regardless of if we are winning or losing though Sad one, that's the problem, not just tonight since game one barring Hudds in which i think we were in single figures for offloads which isn't like us.

As did Saints start to the game against Leeds Last week. On both fronts Stevo blamed lack of opposition's defence as opposed to Saint's cutting edge offence. I think we are seeing the start of a comprehensive game plan under Mike and Kieron,

Rush is clearly not a genius and by his own admission has not done anything startlingly radical in the last 2 weeks. However, I posit that he is probably extremely good at man-management.

Our squad has bags of ability in some places a lot of experience. I reckon Rush and KC stood in front of them (esp the senior players) and told it like it is - they weren't earning their money and had effectively got 2 good men sacked because of their poor performance. What are you going to do about it?

I also reckon they train them pretty hard! I can imagine KC being a pretty uncompromising taskmaster.

Got to agree with Saints Fan about the bradford game - I thought it was much improved quite a bit over the Hull game where we were really awful.
Even against the Cats, we were pretty good for the first 60 mins and should have killed the game at the end. I didn't go to the Hudds game but from what I read and was told, we were very unlucky not to win that one and it was only brough's unbelievable good fortune that won it for them.

We had the ability to grunt out wins in those games that we lost, but grunting out wins was not very effective.

I went to the Huddersfield game and although it was close and so we could have won it, we offered very little attacking threat from any part of the field, we got lucky with the Lomax try had it been on TV it may not have been given.

But we went from [uawful [/uin the hull game to [uquite average[/u in the Bradford game - not really the improvement that should be praised IMO.

At Huddersfield we may have been unlucky, but IMO they were just as bad as us in that game so it's hardly (again) something to point out etc.

Big difference since Royce left? Summed up by Rushy:

"it's hard to be critical when you are asking them to push the ball and take chances"

Playing in the Saints way again, and about time.

I think rush is playing his part in the way we are playing since he and KC took over. I'm good friends with some saints lads and asked them what had changed.

Rush had changed the defensive pattern and gone with one that the players feel much more comfortable.

Also, he's give them a more free role and introduced more options for the halfbacks in the form of runners.

Notice how we not standing quite do deep either ,