I'm with you on that. I don't understand the fixation people seem to have with Lyon playing at stand off. To me he didn't look comfortable in that position the couple of times he played there for us, and Manly didn't persist with playing him there for long.

He's a very talented guy, so I'm sure he'd make a decent stand off, but why anyone would want to move him from centre, where he is exquisite, is beyond me.

Exactly. I'd love him to be back as he was brilliant to watch and worth the gate money alone but as a centre and at the moment we are in urgent need for a proper halfback.

Watts the stand off at Widnes (he's injured) would have been just the signing we need as the ain't many top class halves available.

I'd love brown to bring brough with him or if we signed Catalan #7.

You're quite right but it doesn't mean that everybody retains the same level of quality as they age. I daresay one of the reasons that Menzies is over here is to prolong his career for a couple more years. How old was Gidley when he came over because I remember people complaining about his final year saying that time had caught with up or rather Super League had. Lyon would probably cost us megabucks and if we could guarantee he came over with the same sort of quality as first time he would probably be worth it but what happens if he doesn't? I'd rather chance our arm on someone else if we're talking about a big chunk of our salary cap.

Look what many said about Craig Gowers when the Broncos signed him aged 34, yesterday at the JJB he was
running the game and he is improving with every match, so Jamie should have no problems.

that's fair comment mate - it will be interesting to see the kind of ideas the new coach will advocate

But when will that new coach be in position? or do you mean the caretakers? or does the coach really make the final decisions any more, name signings may be approached quietly now for next season, we know it goes on or you may miss out.

Surely a club like Saints would give the coach the full rein to try to get the players in he wants if at all possible

Mr Guasch at Catalans is a difficult guy to please and Robinson knows his job is on the line if a few games are lost but at least Guasch gave him the responsability of approaching and signing future players - the Pryce deal was done halfway through last season for example cos' Robinson wanted him

the catretaker or new coach at Saints will have to use what he has available to him this seson which, if you look at the squad still isn't a bad set of players it just needs the right coach to instill the confidence - the team will turn around, even with someone like KC in charge

As our quota is full and lack of British players available the only solution is to withdraw sia contract offer and sign gaz Ellis.

That way we have a quota spot free.

Thoughts?

It's a possible, but I'd be more tempted to move Sia forwards and sign Gareth Ellis and a british prop.

I wasn't saying if do that but it's a option.

I think sia will end up in the front row and said it last year but I think it's a good few years off yet.

British prop?

Sorry not every site is as friendly as ours and put contracts on a sticky.

Larne Patrick Huddersfield
Mark O meley - Hull FC
Sam Moa - Hull FC, but not sure if he is pre-2008.
Bryn Hargreaves - Bradford
Micheal Koredas - bit left field, but basically you get the gist, you look and you can find OOC props for next year.

Tom and George Burgess are also off contract at Bradford and Souths respectively. If Souths aren't keeping George, it might reduce the likelihood of Tom going there as well.

Any chance of a BOGOF Burgess offer?

thats what we need a HUGE monster of a player in the pack, the sort that were only fed raw meat for the last 10 years

Lyon on a two year deal - fine. Anything else - no.

Look, I'm sure the spirit is willing and all. But thirty-year flesh is notoriously weak. And I'm guessing Lyon will be on far, far more than his initial contract (which even McManus accepts was modest).

In any case, the main priority MUST be a scrum half. Let's see how much is left in the pot before we go hiring expensive players teetering on the edge of their prime.

I know people want to sign a prop, but we have 5 capable senior props and 3 young props in the squad (Hand, Forster & Walker).
I would say that making sure the props we've got perform should be the priority over signing new ones.

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Quote ="bewareshadows"Sorry not every site is as friendly as ours and put contracts on a sticky. Larne Patrick Huddersfield Mark O meley - Hull FC Sam Moa - Hull FC, but not sure if he is pre-2008. Bryn Hargreaves - Bradford Micheal Koredas - bit left field, but basically you get the gist, you look and you can find OOC props for next year.'" Pretty friendly in Wigan (good old Bilko) wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=122 All ooc at the end of this season George Carmont Stuart Fielden Brett Finch Stefan Marsh Mike McIlorum Chris Tuson Thomas Leuluai Sean O'Loughlin Amos Roberts

Oooh look. We'll take Marsh.

O'Loughlin is off to the NRL apparently as is Leuluai, the rest are utter garbage.

I spotted Marsh in Frankie & Bennies (near LP) waiting for someone to come in and had a pen in his hand?
Make of that whatever you want?

Paying his bill maybe

I hope you aren't being serious.

Marsh is the worst player on that Wigan list.

He would be now he's a Saint. I heard he tore you to shreds the other week when you were hammered by Widnes?

He played against an academy player (Jack Hughes) who has played about five games at centre in his career. Did you see Marsh's attempted tackle on Matty Russell?

The video will be available on the Superleague site.

Marsh is not a bad player but is too much head down, not a good trait for a centre.

I've never been impressed with marsh when I've seen him, he plays with his head down and looks little to thin for a centre.

Given the right pass he looks like he could make breaks as he looks fast but I'd be very very disappointed if we signed him.

I fink jamie iz da best