I'll just consult the psychic powers and channel Potter's thoughts...

=redHonest to god! Let it go man!

St Ty

He's injured.

One thing i did notice is that quins showed alot of respect for wheeler, for example, in the first half we were on or near their line about 15 in from pop side. Quins put 4 defenders on the blindside where only wheeler and i think it was gilly at the time where on so 4 on 2, this left the whole other side of the pitch stretched. Nothing came of it but they did seem to be watching him alot, which shows he must be doing something right.
Eastmond (and saints) desperately need eastmond to play at very least a full game at 7, to see what he's made of.
Emmit, IMO did very well for a 20yr old prop

Eastmond sidestepped some tackles during the match and also came out of his line - I'm still not convinced about him defensively - but he also made some good half breaks, caught really well and passed well, though to be fair Quins were on him quickly so he didn't really have much chance to shine.

Wheeler was fine again, worked like a trojan, but as has been said, Quins marked him well and so he wasn't able to move in the same way as in other matches.

Ashurst seemed fine.

I didn't really notice Emmit (except I knew he was on because his was one of just two clean shirts at the time!) but good on him for making his debut and I'm sure he did fine for his first time out.

That's a big call to say emmitt is on par with bryn!

How many times you seen emmitt play 1st team rugby?

Christ the was few on here sayin bryn should be in the England squad.

Now ski says he on par with emmitt.

Don,t think Emmitt did much wrong he did what job role he had to do.

Eastmond needs to start a game at Scrum Half on a more regular basis, thinks its unfair on the lad, he can,t get a run in the team.

Wheeler is already in the 1st choice 17 for me, like to see him at 6 with Pyrce playing his usual role but at loose forward like Sculthorpe use to play.

Eastmond needs more game time. He has the skill levels and temperament to be in the side but he's not up to speed with our play and hasn't really clicked into the rythmn of the side. Wheels has slotted in seamlessly and continued with another solid display last night.

Wheels was solid defensively , but he came up with a number of errors with ball in hand.

He dropped the ball on Saints 10 yard line when running it back that lead directly to Quins getting their first try. This was an unforced error as no one touched him.

He also dropped ball when attacking a kick to corner. He had done well to intersect the two Quins defenders but failed to take the actual crossfield kick.

Safe to say if Meli had made above errors he would have been slated.

Emmitt took the ball up but wasnt really physically mature enough to make any forward impression.

Arnold, was wasted on the wing receiving no running chances, and was easily handled when returning deep kicks.
He missed one tackle that lead to Quins going 30 yards downfield.
When at standoff he did no kicking but did move the ball quite well and was clearly unsettling the Quins defenders due to his threat to dart at the line then pass. I felt his presence in the line was what allowed Wellens to score.

Ahsurst usual solid performance.

Thats because Meli isn't a young lad and also Meli does it regular, which is why he gets slated. Although, a lot of the time, it is unfair.

Did anyone see Ashurst chase the kick in the second half when we forced a drop out? Great work.

Was that the time when the ball popped out like a wet bar of soap? If so, I thought that was him but couldn't be totally certain. Poor guy, I bet he felt gutted!


And so he should be. He's an international with donkey's years of experience. He's not a young lad just learning the ropes at this level. Wheeler has done very well. He's played wing and centre, neither position the one he is used to; has shown rugby smarts during some very testing moments; has kept his cool under pressure; has scored some excellent tries; has tackled with enthusiasm and has generally handled the ball very well. He didn't get a lot of game time last year as I remember so given his more regular inclusion in the team this year I think he is doing exceptionally well.

When he becomes a very experienced international I will be quite happy to criticise him for the mistakes he made last night, especially if we're paying him a fat wage. Meanwhile, he is learning his trade and hopefully his mistakes won't damage his confidence but instead will teach him something he can put back into his next game.

That wasn't Emmitts debut.

Wasn't it? I know he's appeared in the 19 before now but I thought that was his first time out. My bad.

Played against Wakefield last season, i think.

Its actually his third appearance, but the first game he has started

First of many hopefully

As someone who has given him lots of praise in the past, that is the one thing I would be worried about.

Whenever things have gone wrong for him he appears to go into hiding (injured ) mode.

Purely an observation, and something I have heard mentioned from "inside" the game.

On young uns, I saw a young Warrington full back play at Orrell yesterday.

His name was Rhys Evans, he looked a real talented player, beat the first man with ease every time he got the ball.

Warrington won the academy game at Orrell 30-20.
Wigan won the reserve game at Wilderspool 44 - 22.

How did Saints reserves and academy go over the weekend?

Reserves got beat against Harelquins 40-38 (I think). I'm not sure about the academy.

This is him. Very impressive.
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Great try.

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Get him signed

My thoughts too. It looks as though Wire have found a belter.

Sometimes you see a player and you just know he can play. It was the ease with which he beat his man every time that impressed me, although he did take a wrong option once when he was defending, so just a 9.8 from me I'm afraid.

Warringtons youth system does seem to be having a bit of a resurgence. At least the old Lancashire clubs still produce the talent.