Unbelievably stupid by Dawson to take that ball out, something Makinson wouldn't do. But that attempted tackle, if you can call it that, was one of the worst i've saw.

Another missed tackle by walsh and they score. He's been awful. His injury is no excuse for missing tackles like this.

He's lost his bottle Imo.

If he was a youngter we'd drop him to get his confidence back

I think it's his bottle has gone. He looks afraid of contact and doing his best to avoid any contact at all.

I reckon he still has a bad ankle, noticed that he was limping off after the final whistle of the Widnes game last week, surprised no one else has mentioned it.

He's been limping since he came back the first time. Players who have that type of injury do limp for some time.

I've just come back from broken ankle and im limping but I'm 100% better.

Walsh has no running game, and Burns doesn't have a brain. His decision making is shocking.

But, to be fair, There was no platform, the Saints forwards were taken to task there.

Our pack is Looking poor. It's been beaten the last 3 weeks.

I just don't see the point in playing Walsh, at the present he is an asset to the opposition as his defence is non existent and he looks afraid of carrying the ball. I cannot get my head round the Saints logic of extending Walsh's contract when he was injured and why Dawson was given a further two years. After his performance tonight (Dawson) he should be given a four year contract in Strangeway's. Having said that the whole team should be docked half their pay.

Would Travis Burns be anywhere near a SL team if he wasn't Australian?

It's a bit rich blaming Burns when Walsh was the worst player on the pitch.

Travis isn't the player he was. But he's got more guts in his left fingertip than Walsh has ever shown.

The problem we have is right now Wilkin is a better scrum half than Walsh.

I hear the argument about having three attacking pivots on the pitch. But if [uNONE OF THEM[/u offer any pace then we're better off dropping to two and bringing in someone like Quinlan - who does at least have some pace. I dunno - anyone.

But we can't carry on playing three pivots who not only lack pace but acceleration, too.

Agreed but were either playing tonight?

they should sit walsh and burns down and make em watch a couple of old videos of tommy martyn and longy when they played together...abbot and costello would be a better half back pairing than those two.and as for matty dawson..he couldnt get in the giants first team..(im not surprised with his pathetic tackling and ball dropping)..we may be 2cnd in the chart..but this is the worse saints team ive seen for a while..they struggled against widnes after being 18-6 up..then they threw an 18-10 lead away at cas..everyone was taking the mickey out of the pies loss at warrington..saints were even worse tonight!

You could say that about most of Super League's imports, prime example is Steve Michaels at Hull FC, he is beyond average but gets a game every week.

I didn't see much of Burns but he had a little spell when he looked like the player we had signed when he was taking the line on but for 70 mins I forgot he was playing.

I noticed Walsh regular. He was missing tackles like they was going out of fashion. He's trying to put himself in position where he doesn't have to make contact. He is a player teams will use spot plays on as most halves but he's not up to it physically or mentally. He's lost his bottle. The was a ball that went to ground and he was afraid to drop on the ball which in my book not acceptable.

Maybe we'd be best sitting him out for the rest of the year and go with Wilkin who at least tries to stamp he authority on the game and lead us.

Certainly there's an argument for sticking Quinlan not at fullback, but at halfback while Walsh sorts his head out.

Would sooner have Percival back in the centres and Quinlan at full back, my opinion Walsh needs to sort his head out whilst on the pitch and not sat in the stands. Let Quinlan settle into the team for a couple of games away from the coal face in the halves, if things don't, improve when we go into the 8's then there is an option of him going at 7.

Wonderful signing Saints supporters were saying last year at this time. Do you all still feel he was worth the fee?

I would keep it simple.

Drop Walsh and put Wilkin back to 7.

Wilkin is no half but he got us to the top 4 with effort and endeavour. It's not ideal but until Walsh can go a few rounds with mose then he's not ready to take the field.

I feel for him but it's a professional game if youa are not ready to get hurt you can't play rl full stop.

I think so, he,s average at times but he has kept us ticking over in the top 3 so far this season, whilst your half back star signings are just about holding on and struggling to be in the top 8.

Up until the Souths game he was very good. His long passes to Percy was worldclass. He also was working well with Vea on those inside balls.

He's been pretty average for past 6 weeks tho and not looked the same since hull KR targeted him.

Its not the fault of our half back star signings that we are only just in the top eight. Looking at how your half backs are performing I know which I would prefer in my team even with Campese long term injury.

Green did not do him any favours I agree but a top player would not allow such an incident so so adversely affect him. I think you need to look at other reasons for his decline in performance. He is mirroring our experience. A period of excellence followed by average performance.

So you'd rather have a player that's hardly played and won't play again this year over a player that plays week in week out ?

I just don't get that.