If you think that his defence hasn't gone down the pan since playing 7 and thus moving wider, then you just aren't watching. I just assumed he'd be better out there considering as mentioned he was making 40 plus tackles as a middle and capably so, but it's a tricky place to defend and some players can't adapt easily.

I know usually you'd put up some stats backing up your point with some patronising capital letters and bold underline, so please feel free as it's there to see in the numbers as well as watching from the stand.

He's going to throw the dictionary at you

Are people actually that concerned.

Not that worried to be honest.

I think we will be ok if keep key players fit but our edge defence worries me and I'm not sure us at our best beats Wigan and leeds that their best.

Leeds and Wigan won't be able to live with our pack with us at our best.

The only concern is the defence and error count. Stop gifting teams ball and making daft mistakes and we'll take an enormous amount of stopping.

I'm not sure we can handle leeds outside backs. Hardaker, Briscoe, moon, Watkins, hall etc will tear us apart again.

Our pack will compete but I don't think it's as good as people make out.

You mean like Wigan's outside backs tore us apart? According to the Wigan fans they've never had it this good in ages. [i"Best centre performance in ten years"![/i

EXPLAIN why Wigan couldn't break through our supposedly hopeless back division.

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You really aren't very good at this.

We had a very poor start. Sometimes that happens. 3 unforced errors put Leeds on the front foot.

I don't think we were at the right intensity for this game. According to KC we did not train this week so that may explain why we were so poor controlling the ball. But having watched RL for years like most of us on here these things happen.

If we lose some more games in the next couple of weeks, then I'll worry.

But our run of losses is not horrendous.

I'm sure Wigan will be terrified of Burns running game, he must rival Wellens as the slowest back in Superleague.

I must be in a time warp here, I'm pretty sure we lost on good friday didnt we ?


I said, we can't live with the leeds backs mate and I even named them all just for you.

And yet only one team carried the ball over the line.

You know what Wayne Bennett says about conceding only from kicks? Look it up because I think you'll learn something important.



Oh - so Leeds have a complete monopoly on talent in the backs? Amazing! They really must be putting something in the water over there. Maybe we should call in the drug-testers.



This is emblematic of your bizarre reasoning. I've no idea how or why you develop these cockamamie opinions but you'd do well to at least test whether they float BEFORE dropping them from thirty-thousand feet into the ocean - directly above the Marianas trench.

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Did you see Roby play prop last night? He packed down as prop on a scrum

No. That would be Matty Smith.

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Walmsley played hooker too

KC's after match interview seemed rather mardy to say the least, it was almost like listening to the ape.

I found the comments strange. I had no issue with our ruck defence. Problem was we were getting spanked out wide by Leeds' stronger, quicker backs: i.e. Watkins and two of their first half scores were unlucky on our part.

They opened us up in the middle way too much too. It was just a shocking (first half especially) game of Rugby from us.

@ Charlie Sheen - I didnt think he sounded Ape like tbh , I think he was just cheesed off at the poor first half performance.

KC's first major test now. Does he have what it takes to pull us through?

I'm not sure he can due to him not being in this situation before but I certainly think the players can.

We now have Burns ad walsh in the halves, we should have percy back next week so the players are coming back now.

Providing no more injuries to key players we will be ok.

We really need to start a game with more intensity and effeciency, we,ve had too many games now were we are sloppy in defence and attack with lots of occasions we don,t complete our first set. It makes you wonder games after the Easter Program how it effects teams more with respect to energy levels and how they can mentally adjust to it.

Its noticable for a couple of games now that we are not wrapping the ball up in the tackle, offloading in the middle is putting pressure on our outside backs as the ball goes out wide, teams know this tactic works against saints.

If KC can get the "team up" the way he did in the 2nd half against Leeds, then he should be doing this at the very start of the game instead of the risk of catch up rugby.

We will get through it. We have limped through a tough run of games.

Once Walsh is back properly and Percival returns I think we will be ok. But I do worry about full back. KC's big test is resolving that issue IMO.

I agree. It's something that I am concerned about now. We need some consistency in that area. He needs to either:

1. Bring a fullback in (my preference)
2. Play Hohaia there.
3. Play Makinson there and play a young lad like Fleming on the wing.

Whichever option he takes, I don't think chopping and changing is going to help anyone. If we can't bring anyone in then we need to decide on Hohaia or Makinson and give them a good run of games to hopefully find some consistency before the business end of the season.

Shannon McDonnell?

I would for go for the least disruption and put Lance in there. Whats the injury timescales with Wellens and Lomax, will Johnny be playing next season.