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| Me too, I can understand if he's being held back a little but it's been a real impressive year for him. Now is the time to get our best players in the team and I think he's good enough.
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| Quote ="St pete"Thompson should be in there even if walmsley was playing. He has that enthusiastic energy and commitment that certain other players lack.
Thompson would be in my 17 every week'"
I'd go with that. I've not seen Laffranchi do anything to justify his place in the side ahead of Thompson.
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| Quote ="SFW"It would be typical of the RFL to have got the charge completely wrong but to ban him despite the technicality.
The thought of Clark running at Walmsley around the ruck makes me shudder in any case. Get Thompson in there if he is banned.'"
Walmsley has looked out of condition for quite a few games now, if we had the fitter version like the beginning of the season he would have got to Luke Robinson a second earlier and would have legally splattered him.
I would play Sav and Thompson ahead of Walmsley and Lefranc.
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| I like Boof and I think he is criminally under-rated by many, especially defensively. I sense he isn't popular amongst fans as he is a quota player and expectations are somewhat higher for him but he is an important player for us.
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| Quote ="SFW"I like Boof and I think he is criminally under-rated by many, especially defensively. I sense he isn't popular amongst fans as he is a quota player and expectations are somewhat higher for him but he is an important player for us.'"
He,s OK defensively but the problem is we need a lot of go forward in the pack to give our "stand in" halves a bit more time and space. Boof never seems to win the collison where Thompson will try and run through a brick wall if given the chance.
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| I can believe that there's a discussion here suggesting that the technicality (not a shoulder charge) is used to get him off cleaning out another player. He's clearly guilty of an attack to the head of Robinson, are we suggesting it's Striking with the shoulder and, I don't know a grade C offence there rather than a C for SC?
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| Banned for 1 match. The charge was downgraded from a shoulder charge to a careless high tackle.
I did say in the opening post that it wasn't a shoulder charge. "Saints Fan" take note.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Banned to 1 match. The charge was downgraded from a shoulder charge to a careless high tackle.
I did say in the opening post that it wasn't a shoulder charge. "Saints Fan" take note.
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Think that's a result in the circumstances. Can't disagree with it, so fair play all round.
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| Just goes to show you should not buy into the SKY goons when they make rash calls.
I was dubious about the shoulder charge. But did not want to negate the fact it was a late tackle.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Just goes to show you should not buy into the SKY goons when they make rash calls.
I was dubious about the shoulder charge. But did not want to negate the fact it was a late tackle.'"
A single reply and anyone who actually knows what a shoulder charge is could see it wasn't one. Those sky clowns just like something to harp on about that isn't the game it's self
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Originally Posted by southernsaint7
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Why don't you lecture someone else? A whole host of people thought and still think it was a shoulder charge. As I do.
Incidentally, I did manage to get only a Level 1 coaching badge but I've made tackles and been tackled so I do know what it's all about. And I am still of the view - and I'm not the only one - that Walmsley made a shoulder charge. I think we have been favoured by the closeness of the play offs.
However, that's my last word on it.
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| If you think that's a shoulder charge, then that means that EVERY tackle is a shoulder charge. How the flip are you meant to tackle without your shoulder?!
Bizarre if you genuinely think it was.
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| In my opinion in no way was it a shoulder charge but it was reckless and high and worth at least 2 and probably 3 matches , certainly worse than Sinfields head butt
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"In my opinion in no way was it a shoulder charge but it was reckless and high and worth at least 2 and probably 3 matches , certainly worse than Sinfields head butt'"
Don't think so. Sinfields was violent conduct walmsleys was clumsy
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| Well a change in the laws are needed then because no way was Sinfield going to cause injury but Walmsley was and did
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| Very fortunate just one match, still thought two was fair, they just seem in a complete mess with disciplinary, the appeal by Batley and returning the points has opened an hornets nest, can anyone appeal on a past precedence now however long ago it was??
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Well a change in the laws are needed then because no way was Sinfield going to cause injury but Walmsley was and did'"
Walmsley was guilty of poor technique for the tackle, deservedly a sending off but wasnt a shoulder charge just a high tackle...look at past suspensions for high tackles and it is pretty consistent with that. In your logic, Jermaine McGillvray made contact with Matty Dawson and knocked him clean out, forcing him to be stretchered off the field. Does that mean he should be banned for more than 2 games??
Sinfield made a deliberate and conscious decision to headbutt another player...now I'm no expert in nutting people but I am pretty confident nobody has ever headbutted another person without aiming to hurt them. I'm pretty sure he could have caused numerous injuries to Dorn from doing that so a pretty pointless & pathetic argument on both parts really dont you think??
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| I think sometimes people compare matches missed without looking at the initial punishment.
Some of the two match bans for high tackles, did not get a Red.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Well a change in the laws are needed then because no way was Sinfield going to cause injury but Walmsley was and did'"
A headbutt couldnt cause injury .. really ?
fractured cheekbone
broken nose
broken jaw
consusion
To name a few , 3 of those 4 carry the possibility of needing surgury to fix the other could means weeks out of the game.
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