Bans don't work on fighting ethics though eh champ? What is your opinion on Hock? Sending off sufficient? Unlucky to have been sent off despite having started a 26 man brawl and bringing the entire Magic weekend's positive PR down to a disgraceful end?

Er, you're wrong.

Magennis and Tuson hadn't had a fight up to then. They'd just grabbed each other's shirts. Their conflict was over, and Tuson turned TO FACE the main fight.

Magennis then blindsided him, which makes him a dirty cheapshot coward.

If you opened your other eye, you would see this.

Hurm ....

If Magennis was any good, I would be able to work myself up into a fuss about this. As it is, he is 33 games into his career and this is the most noteworthy thing he has done to date.

If/when he gets banned, we wont miss him - which says a lot about his contribution to the team.

Did you open your eyes when Sam was following up a kick and one Saints player just simply pushed him over! sportsmanship? of course neither referee or his two blokes with a flag saw it, TV did when I watched it late last night!

I have never seen so many high tackles as we see in the game today! one time it was a straight sending off offence.

In London The Metro hardly give Rugby League any coverage, but today they did mentioning Yes one incident, handbags at dawn! both teams let themselves down badly and The Game!

Absolute verbal bullsh*t there mate!

You have watched it back haven't you?

Maggenis had a pop at Lockers and then turned to have a pop at Mossop.....Who then proceeded to put Maggenis on his ar*e. No cheapshot from Mossop as they were both fully square on and ready for a biff.

Apart from the scumbag cheapshot from Maggenis the rest was just a bit of forwards having a biff.

I have watched it back and you need to take your Wigan coloured specs off. It was by no means in the same league as Magennis' but Magennis was after going back to SoL when Mossop hit him.

I agree. To punch someone when their back is towards you, even if they are a Wiganer, is cowardly and cheap. I hope he gets a multiple match ban, not least because we then may see Dixon back in the team and Dixon in the few games he played while Simmons was around offered far more to the team than Magennis has done all season. If all he can offer is cowardly cheap shots then I would rather he went somewhere else.

The incident between LMS and Hock was a different beast all together. LMS was niggling Hock in the scrum, doing that head thing, and Hock reacted with shots to the face of LMS while holding him. Thankfully LMS didn't react and so made Hock look even worse. Hopefully Hock will also get a multiple match ban.

It was a sad end to what was overall an enjoyable Magic weekend, not just because of the fight (which though always fun to watch will result in no playing action being reported; only the fight) but because we put in such an unprofessional performance, even with one man advantage. The whole farce was embarrassing to witness and I hope the whole team feel utterly ashamed of themselves for looking so completely ridiculous in every respect.

I love how the Wigan fans can watch that brawl and suggest the only person who did anything wrong was Magennis. It's bizarre.

The RFL can ban him for as long as the want, he's irrelevant anyway. But to dismiss Hock's attempts to break LMS' nose in the scrum as 'just props doing what props do' is rather silly. Organised violence between forwards has been out of the game for 20 years now. There are enough avenues to channel legal aggression through in the game without allowing players to strike each other.

Anyone suggesting it's okay 'to have a bit of biff' need to wake up. A professional rugby player striking to the head could easily kill. All it takes is a bleed and we could see a player lose his life. It's a part of the game we don't need and shouldn't condone as 'biff' when it happens.

I think the RFL should send a message and use the three dualists as an example. Hock should get 5-6 given his previous, Magennis the same and Tuson 4. They should also ban McIllorum for his tackle after the incident and for his complete loss of control.

No argument with Magennis being sent off, but just watched the fight again on replay and he hits him side on not from behind...whilst I agree he should have smacked him head on, its about time somebody showed a bit of fire in our pack. Was it a cheap shot? Yes...Was it the only cheap shot in the game? No...Hock is full of cheap shots and McIlorum isnt far behind him!! Just because MAgennis' was shown up and replayed many times over, dont let your Wigan specs fool you that your players dont do it

Not sure about all the "disgrace" talk in regard to the punch up, I thought the fight added a bit of spice and the passion of derby games can often lead to things boling over - was nice to see some actual punches thrown for a change instead of just pushing like footballers do...people need to accept that we watch a contact sport and it can happen - anybody who plays the game knows this

I don't think you couldn't have watched it again, I have and could not see Hock smack anyone in the mush, I think you seen what you wanted to see and exaggerated the facts. what went on was not good for the game, and won't change the outcome. I'm not blaming anyone, it was not such a big deal, it was Thaler who made it one with his bad choice of card colour scheme.





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I think that Hock completely over-reacts in the scrum; why on Earth does he start throwing punches?! He looked like a bit of a prat doing that and he ultimately ignites something that has overshadowed the game really and could potentially have overshadowed the weekend.

Well done LMS who does not react (hence no action against him) to Hock's ridiculous 'losing his head' moment. Hock is an outstanding RL player, there is no denying that, but what happens if the Aussies wind him up and he reacts badly in a world cup semi/final as they are bound to try and wind him up? His ability is unquestionable, but what is questionable is his temperament and discipline and they are two crucial factors in international rugby.

As for Magennis: attacking Tuson was completely foolish and he got what he deserved really, but for Wigan fans to pin-point him in all of this is a little unfair as let's not forget what, or more appropriately who, started the whole thing.

As for biff I don't condone it really, but the risk of it happening is high because of the physicality of the sport; players do not go out onto the pitch to fight do they? Thankfully this is not the norm as incidents are rare.

Because he couldn't bring his club onto the field.

Hock is just another Newton. Its just a matter of time before he faces a long lay off again. Once an idiot always an idiot. Wigan fans can blah blah all they like they know it.

Hock 5-6 games for trying to head butt in the scrum and causing the whole thing and given his previous. IMHO this guy should never have been allowed to play RL again, I think the RFL is a Joke.

The others 2-3 games for handbags.

Personally I give Magennis +1 for at least having some passion unlike all the other jokers playing for Saints last night.

Of course, it's going to happen from time to time. But when it does, the aggressors should receive appropriate bans and so should those who go over the top. LMS stood up to Hock in the scrum so Hock just saw red and start lashing out. Magennis and Tuson have a go at each other and Magennis lashes out at him. Both Hock and Magennis should cop the biggest bans as the aggressors. But then Tuson showed how not to react by wildly retaliating. Mossop then unecessarily threw one when everyone else was by then trying to stop it.

Wigan should probably lose Hock, Tuson and Mossop from the fight itself and McIllorum from the tackle after it and the loss of control he suffered. Not great behaviour given the game was over and their player was the cause of it all. I think that having so many in disciplinary trouble will probably either reduce the bans or negate them entirely in some cases. The RFL seems to have a quota system for bans and are unlikely to ban four from the same team. Leeds must be pretty excited about the disciplinary panel this week though. For us, I can see Magennis getting a decent ban and probably Wilkin, depending on how serious a look the RFL take at the game itself. They may decide they've filled their quota from the brawl and ignore Wilkin and McIllorum.

Lets hope magennis is banned for a good few games, I would rather Dixon in the team anyway. Or does Rush not like him either?

Sorry but i'm glad Magennis did what he did, About time someone stood up to the wigan pack.

Where is the Perry who beat the hell out of Peacock a few years ago?

Sat on the bench where he spends most of his time.

LMS did that but he used his brain as well, unlike Magennis, and so got no ban at all.

Not sure Magennis stood up to anyone actually. He just picked a fight so far as I could see. Had he actually been a really good player that would have resulted in his absence for 3 to 5 weeks.

Exactly....

I take it you've never watched State of Origin.

Just wondering why you make storys up perry didnt knock the hell out of peacock. do you always tell lies? or is this a mod thing we have to agree with what you say or we get banned.Not saying he didnt get a couple of digs in but so did peacock.

you can disagree with me all you like, but you really can't think the Peacock came off better?

did i say that he did

there you go again making storys up.