No idea. I'm going on reports from the older generation! But Warrington fans stood out as having the worst reputation. These days, aside from the incident at KR with Wigan last season, I'd say Leeds fans are the worst.

Wigan fans were escorted down knowsley road because ONE idiot punched a steward and broke his jaw, that was the only "incident" that happened. If people were "starting fights" then why was there no arrests apart from the one plank that assualted the steward??

As iv said, Wire fans in general are good for banter and iv met loads that iv had a proper RL discussion with, the people I was targeting in my post, was the idiots that stand in the middle of the westterrace that more than likely was at the heart of this incident with the Saints fans the other night.

Only! Breaking a man's jaw is worse than anything which has gone on there since I've been going, by a long distance! On top of that, a group of your fans decided to try and wreck the joint in the away end. While it wasn't the nicest of places, it wasn't Wigan fans' place to wreck.

And then, on top of all that, you are Wiganers, which is reason enough in my view to kettle you all the way to Wigan.

I didnt say "only" as in "only punched a steward" did I?? I said ONE IDIOT. You can hardly brand us a "disgrace" because ONE idiot punched a steward. Nobody wrecked the joint at all, IIRC one peice of rusty aluminium fell off the back of the stand. Biggest exageration ever.

I heard the banging hon. I was there. I saw what your fans were doing. If they were caught they were going to be charged, just like the fan who broke the steward's jaw. Put those incidents together and (a) you have more trouble than we had at KR in years, and (b) you as a collective were going to be viewed by the police as potential trouble makers.

Like I said at the outset, you can't try to claim the moral high ground when it comes to fan behaviour, which is what you were trying to do with the Wire fan, simply because your own fans behave badly as well.

So you was stood right at the back of the away end in the middle of the away support was you? I was there, and im telling you it fell at half time, it was hanging off before the game. The bloke who broke the stewards jaw was charged, and banned. Can you please give more examples of bad behaviour by Wigan fans?? Id love to hear it, because iv travelled the country watching Wigan and have only ever viewed trouble at Warrington once and the one idiot hitting a steward. Enlighten me.

If you've travelled all over and only seen trouble at Warrington once and the KR incident with the Steward, then why are you condemning Warrington fans? Lets face it, calling Wire fans scum is a popular sport with SOME Wigan fans (they also tar Leeds and Saints with the same brush), but breaking a stewards jaw is infinitely more serious than problems with a few chavs. The steward is there in effect to Police the crowd and breaking someone's jaw amounts to GBH. I would think that if he's been convicted he'll not need a ban, because he'll get 5 years inside.

Just as bad as grown men headbutting women or setting lads lay on the floor on fire?

Yes, I agree. What I don't agree with is that a number of Wigan fans brand all Wire fans scum (the last one was on Friday night), when we aren't. Everyone has a few idiots, but when I tried to argue the point I was ridiculed on your board. Some of us are quite nice you know.

I know a few decent Wire fans, with whom I can have a decent RL discussion, but as you say there are some from the lower edge of society (as have most clubs)

it's not your stand it's a shared stand it's only a full away end if all tickets are sold by the away team.Saints usually fill it moving the west stand season ticket holders having to move into the south stand.This year was the worst away attendance I've seen by Saints for a very long time.Therefore the west stand season ticket holders could stay there but not only that Warrington sold west stand tickets for general sale and a week before the match had 1500 on general sale.

I wasnt condeming Wire fans in general though was I? I was speaking of the idiots that stand in the middle of the west terrace and provoke away fans, this happens all the time it seems after reading other teams forums.

Yes I know its not all and I know a few decent wire fans and met a couple in Edinburgh last year.
But in my personal experience Warrington have more than the chavs who think they are 12 men that all clubs have!
After we finally won at HJ i was in the group of wigan fans many of whom were girls and lads who weighed 8 stone wet through who were outnumbered 2 to 1 by big blokes all of whom could handle themselves and were there simply to have a do at Wigan!
Again after you won the challenge cup last year me and my mate had 5 wire fans come looking to kick off with us purely because we were wigan!

Warrington are suffering from their success and the added surge of absolute fools that are now attending games. The regulars, and I'm sure that includes most of the people on RLFANS are fine, great fans to have a laugh with at games. But there is a growing element of absolutely cock sure lads that are ruining it and it's worse than the idiot element at most clubs.

I think it's only a matter of time before there are serious incidents at games involving Warrington. So many chest beating lads who cannot take you looking in their direction, never mind answering them back. The whole football atmosphere of intimidation and goading has no place in RL, but sadly it's there now. The mentality of people who, with a whole stadium to choose form, choose to buy their ticket in the away end and spend the game asking people what they are looking at needs to be questioned. Warrington as a club shouldn't be selling tickets to people for the away end if the rest of the ground isn't full.

Saddened! I rather think it was the unwillingness of Saints fans to turn up to the game on Friday that resulted in Wire fans being in the away end. If Saints fans don't turn up, what is Warrington supposed to do? Lose money?

Those of us who went were noisy and supportive throughout, even though we lost. We recognised a good effort among the dropped ball and atrocious goal line defence. However, I don't think the Warrington club can be blamed for selling tickets to fans who actually want them (as opposed to Saints fans, who clearly didn't!).

My point entirely.

I don't doubt that. But there are elements of the Warrington fan base who choose that stand whether the rest is sold out or not. And as mentioned before on here, they don't even watch the game.

Maybe when the corners get filled at the HJ the West Stand could be made away fans only.

i always go in the west stand with the away fans.

i like to stand up and watch the game from behind the posts... and the west stand is the only place in the ground i can do this.

I also like to goad away fans, start fights, punch women in the face and set people on fire.

but once on fire do you then have the courtesy to wee on them to put it out....?

Saddened, two things. It's not the away end, and secondly you are a classic case of jumping on the bandwagon. It could also be said that it's only a matter of time before there's a serious incident involving Wigan fans after viewing some of the Chavs at the end of the game at the Stobart a fortnight ago. There's also been a few questions asked of the South Stand at Headingley.
In most Public Order incidents it takes two to tango, believe me.

I know singing and jumping up and down they looked like they good really do some damage!

I didn't have or here of any trouble from the Wigan fans, did anyone?

For the last few years there has been trouble with fans at warrington. Especially at that pub near the station.

I was referring to what may happen if Wigan lose a few games.