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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Like Grahams on Lima?'"
Graham owned Lima. Lima is nothing if he isn't playing dirty.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"Thats right, he is joining james graham in the NRL, I wonder who will be missed more, mmmm'"
Yes they all be joining maguire and Richards there as well.
Maguire turns a average run of the mill team in to champs then leaves that same average run of the mill players.
I wonder who'll be missed more indeed?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Graham owned Lima. Lima is nothing if he isn't playing dirty.'"
My point was that Grahams tackle on Lima was similar to the Warrington one.
Have you watched the game again yet?
Hoffmans tackle on Wheeler was no later than the one on Pat Richards by Gardner.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"My point was that Grahams tackle on Lima was similar to the Warrington one.'"
Nothing like it. Went nowhere near Lima's face.
Graham owned Lima.
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| Quote ="St pete"I think any honest rugby league player will say that's what happens in rugby. He didn't mean to do it, he didn't attack his shoulder and IMO from how I saw it, he was committed.
Now if he'd gone out to injure him or it was clear cut he was late then fair enough but it's a 50/50 call in that type of tackle.
Im sure some saddo will have timed how long the ball had gone before he hit him.
Saintsfan is now sat at home with sky+ on and stop watch.'"
The hole your digging for yourself is now way above your head
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Nothing like it. Went nowhere near Lima's face.
Graham owned Lima.'"
Have you watched the game again yet?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"My point was that Grahams tackle on Lima was similar to the Warrington one.
Have you watched the game again yet?
Hoffmans tackle on Wheeler was no later than the one on Pat Richards by Gardner.'"
Nothing like an unbiased opinion
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"My point was that Grahams tackle on Lima was similar to the Warrington one.
Have you watched the game again yet?
Hoffmans tackle on Wheeler was no later than the one on Pat Richards by Gardner.'"
Grahams hit on Lima was the shoulder square in the chest.Gardner was allready diving into the tackle when Richards passed the ball so couldnt alter his momentum.Hoffmans hit was with his shoulder on the kicker after he had kicked to ball and as far as im aware the rules were changed to protect the kickers.
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| Quote ="Benidorm John"The hole your digging for yourself is now way above your head'"
Is it really?
I'm digging it big enough to put you in if you don't shut up
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| Quote ="St pete"Yes they all be joining maguire and Richards there as well.
Maguire turns a average run of the mill team in to champs then leaves that same average run of the mill players.
I wonder who'll be missed more indeed?'"
is it still hurting??, you lost get over it, start the DVD FROM 5mins from the end and enjoy it...i did
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"My point was that Grahams tackle on Lima was similar to the Warrington one.
Have you watched the game again yet?
Hoffmans tackle on Wheeler was no later than the one on Pat Richards by Gardner.'"
Yeah but lets face it, a late hit by Gardner is the equivalent of a toddler attack in the ball pool.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Yeah but lets face it, a late hit by Gardner is the equivalent of a toddler attack in the ball pool.'"
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| Simmons said at the press conf that he didn't see it.
He thought the RFL had a good system to deal with such matters.
The Saints coach said he was now concerned about the Cas game.
His best comment was that whatever went on out there was better than laying a 1000 bricks a day!
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| he's gotta be up in front of the committee next week.
he never attempted to charge down the kick from wheeler and proceeded to lead with his shoulder.... as per the rules set out by the rfl he should have been penalised, and should face a ban
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| Quote ="Ande"Would be nice to see him get a ban for his assault of Wheeler.
Theres late, and then theres Christmas. Hoffman was somewhere between Xmas and New Year.'"
Give over there was nothing in it.
I bet you used to ejaculate when Hooper did it for us
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| The pointbis when Hooper did it there was no rule in placevto protect the kicker. Hooper pretty much set the tone for the sin binning of a late hit on a kicker.
Sone of you lot are either really stupid or good wind up merchants. Hoffman not getting 10 minutes was a shocking decision and I can only guess that MR Silverwood never seen it.
As for the Wiganer who said Hoffman had a fine game, I agree but he was outshone by Sia Soliola. There'll be a few Wigan players staying in bed tommorow morning.
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| Hoffman's saving grace will be he wasn't looking at the kicker and just carried on his momentum.
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| Quote ="St pete"Is it really?
I'm digging it big enough to put you in if you don't shut up
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your gonna have to dig it very deep, I do believe there is more than a few of us thinking your spouting some serious bullchit !
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"No, but when a player is kicking he is unable to defend himself. Taking a player out in that kind of vulnerable position is not sporting; it is irresponsibility. We have rules in place to protect players from irresponsibility. Or would you reintroduce the cumberland throw or say that players should be free to freely thump their opposition around the head or upend them on their necks?
Get real, Pete. Doing what Hoffman did may indeed have been adjudged to be legal but in another match he would have been sinbinned. Because what he did was irresponsible, not sporting.'"
Nothing wrong with it, you need to grow up!!
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| Nothing in it at all. He was fully committed to the tackle and Wheeler getting injured is pure accident.
Hopefully he'll be back playing soon. He looked awesome when he was on. On a side note what a pleasure to watch rafts of youngsters like him, Lomax, Foster, Makinson, Charnley, Farrell, Mossop etc etc running around and making such huge contributions. A great sign for both clubs future.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Have you watched the game again yet?'"
when you watch it again you will see a few points where Wigan used there usual cheat tactics... take a look at the water carrier for instance !
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| Quote ="saint b"when you watch it again you will see a few points where Wigan used there usual cheat tactics... take a look at the water carrier for instance !'"
When Hampo runs past Foster? That's just Hampo being cheeky...get over it.
Like it or not every team pulls tactics looking for an advantage now & then...Foster's "injury" around 75 mins, for example - nothing more than killing time. Q: How is that any worse than a player looking for a penalty? A: It's not.
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| Quote ="Cronus"icon_lol.gif When Hampo runs past Foster? That's just Hampo being cheeky...get over it.'"
That's just Hampson being cheeky? I love the way you just pass it off. You would be a cracking defence lawyer-
"What Roger? That's just Roger being a bit rapey...get over it".
It wasn't much different from when that Costin fella crocked Sean Long a good few years ago, or Terry Newton on Gilmour & Long. Yes it's a mans game and we don't want tick rugby but come on, Hoffman was that late Wheeler could have brewed up.
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| Quote ="WindleSaint"That's just Hampson being cheeky? I love the way you just pass it off. You would be a cracking defence lawyer-
"What Roger? That's just Roger being a bit rapey...get over it".
It wasn't much different from when that Costin fella crocked Sean Long a good few years ago, or Terry Newton on Gilmour & Long. Yes it's a mans game and we don't want tick rugby but come on, Hoffman was that late Wheeler could have brewed up.'"
You're comparing Hampson running between Foster and his kicking tee to Costin on Long and Newton on Gilmour/Long?
You really shouldn't post when drunk.
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| Quote ="St pete"Can't be d having this debate from somebody that's never played the game.
Rugby is a tough sport and more things go on than what Hoffman did and alot worse.
Maybe we should play tick n pass'"
Too all the players of both teams . Too all the fans of both teams . Thank you for what was a wonderful match played in a teriffic spirit.
My team won , but had they lost which looked likley with 60 seconds to go it would not have made it any less a great game and a wonderful advert for Rugby League.
Stop trying to score brownie point over each other and be glad "YOU WERE THERE"
Regards , EW
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