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| Quote ="Saint Simon"critising wilkin is very very harsh, yes it was an error, but as a back rower, only just back from a longterm injury, hes put his hand up to play stand off in the biggest match of our season so far with absolutely no practice before the game. Anyone who's played this game knows thats a massive ask for any player'"
Come on. wilkin didn't have a good game oveall and was a pretty poor example of a hb.
IMO Lack of natural half backs cost us the game.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Come on. wilkin didn't have a good game oveall and was a pretty poor example of a hb.
IMO Lack of natural half backs cost us the game.'"
im not saying he's a good hb, but my point is neither is he! He stood in when noone else was availiable, if we'd put flannery or clough there would we be slating them?
we lost because we had BOTH halfbacks (and their reserves) out of the squad
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| Can,t blame Wilkin even though the "bad option kick" was one of the many turning points of the game. To be honest there was always going to be a comeback from Leeds, we just didn,t have the creativity, and Leeds just did enough to open up the game instead of playing to Saints strengths in the forwards.
Biggest worry if we lose Eastmond and Pryce for the season, positives ...........Foster is looking a promising player now.
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| can't see how you can blame wilkin to be fair he ad a great game you had both ur 6 and 7 out come on cut him some slack
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| How anyone can defend wilkin for that kick is a joke, he was poor again. That was our chance to snatch the game.
Also, that dropped ball from Leeds kick off by wilkin cost us a try.
Not in a million years is he a stand off and should never play there again.
Halfbacks should have been roby and Moore.
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| Quote ="St pete"How anyone can defend wilkin for that kick is a joke, he was poor again. That was our chance to snatch the game.
Also, that dropped ball from Leeds kick off by wilkin cost us a try.
Not in a million years is he a stand off and should never play there again.
Halfbacks should have been roby and Moore.'"
they should've been, no doubt. That isnt wilkins fault though
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Well genius, which of those speedsters is going to get to a kick before Burrow, McGuire and co?'"
Well just pass it then on your own 10metre line and lose the game, you had to try somethinnn, big up and under or anythin give yourselves a chance instead you just get caught in possession. oh well another trophyless season for Stains
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"Oh come on, it was a bloody good game for a neutral to watch and you could have nicked it at the end. I know youre disappointed but dont single one player out, I thought they all gave it their all, and but for a few of [ithe Rhinos usual forward passes[/i you could have won it.
now go and hammer those crusader upstarts
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Once again, we are not allowed to mention the blatant forward passes by the stains players- notably the one that the FGB scored from.
Anyway, that aside, we are still your bogey team.... thank you for giving us the opportunity to visit Wembley again
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"they should've been, no doubt. That isnt wilkins fault though'"
It's Wilkins fault he kicked on 3rd tackle with 5 mins to go, and also his fault he dropped the ball in our first set in the 2nd half because he was looking who was coming.
Wilkin ain't big enough or strong enough to play in the pack and to slow to play in backs, he does run good lines tho
He does get thru some hard work in defence but IMO is behind soliloa, flannery and clough in the backrow.
If magennis can get some fitness then he will also go ahead of jon "big time Charlie" wilkin.
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| Quote ="jedediah"Once again, we are not allowed to mention the blatant forward passes by the stains players- notably the one that the FGB scored from.
Anyway, that aside, we are still your bogey team.... thank you for giving us the opportunity to visit Wembley again
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what about danny's try which was forward have not mentioned that ever
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"critising wilkin is very very harsh, yes it was an error, but as a back rower, only just back from a longterm injury, hes put his hand up to play stand off in the biggest match of our season so far with absolutely no practice before the game. Anyone who's played this game knows thats a massive ask for any player'"
well let's hope he doesnt put his hand up again....he looked totaly disintrested throughout the game...dropped the ball from a perfect pass...did a nothing kick on the 2cnd or 3rd tackle in front of the leeds line...and they call wello for being slow..but wilkin makes him look like linford christie...time for him to join longy at hull now and take gardner with him too..the only winger i know that never makes 1 run.
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| Hard luck Saints. It could have gone either way with errors on both sides leading to tries. Don't blame one player for a mistake - he could have been a hero on another day.
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"well let's hope he doesnt put his hand up again....he looked totaly disintrested throughout the game...dropped the ball from a perfect pass...did a nothing kick on the 2cnd or 3rd tackle in front of the leeds line...and they call wello for being slow..but wilkin makes him look like linford christie...time for him to join longy at hull now and take gardner with him too..the only winger i know that never makes 1 run.'"
I've said it for few years now, wilkin ain't good enough.
Everyone says he played well in challenge cup at Leeds and runs good lines! Wow!
He will be on a good screw at saints and IMO he don't justify if on the pitch, he's so far behind Joel tomkins it's unreal!
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"im not saying he's a good hb, but my point is neither is he! He stood in when noone else was availiable, if we'd put flannery or clough there would we be slating them?
we lost because we had BOTH halfbacks (and their reserves) out of the squad'"
I think thats what I said.
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| Quote ="St pete"I've said it for few years now, wilkin ain't good enough.
Everyone says he played well in challenge cup at Leeds and runs good lines! Wow!
He will be on a good screw at saints and IMO he don't justify if on the pitch, he's so far behind Joel tomkins it's unreal!'"
he is good looking though
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"he is good looking though'"
He's not my type
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| Quote ="St pete"Halfbacks should have been roby and Moore.'"
So then who interchanges with Cunningham as hooker?
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"he is good looking though'"
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| Quote ="Saint #1"So then who interchanges with Cunningham as hooker?'"
Roby should have been halfback and played in a free roll, like at Warrington where he was everywhere.
When kc goes off to be rested roby or Moore could slot in to acting half.
Wilkin should have been 13 and helped out with the ball handling.
He just will never make a halfback as long as he lives, he's not even a good enough reserve stand off as he was today.
Either play him 13 or don't play him at all.
I understand he didn't choose to play there and looks like he can't play there but that's no excuse for that dropped ball when nobody was near him when the first set was so important as we needed a good start in 2nd half.
Also, that kick at the end was utter shocking!
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| Quote ="St pete"Roby should have been halfback and played in a free roll, like at Warrington where he was everywhere.
When kc goes off to be rested roby or Moore could slot in to acting half.
Wilkin should have been 13 and helped out with the ball handling.
He just will never make a halfback as long as he lives, he's not even a good enough reserve stand off as he was today.
Either play him 13 or don't play him at all.
I understand he didn't choose to play there and looks like he can't play there but that's no excuse for that dropped ball when nobody was near him when the first set was so important as we needed a good start in 2nd half.
Also, that kick at the end was utter shocking!'"
Don,t think (48 hours) is enough time to adjust for the no 6 position, he needed all week to work on all the play executions. His best ever game a couple of seasons back at stand off was against Leeds, but he was probably well prepared for it at the time.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Don,t think (48 hours) is enough time to adjust for the no 6 position, he needed all week to work on all the play executions. His best ever game a couple of seasons back at stand off was against Leeds, but he was was probably well prepared for it at the time.'"
Actually, Pryce's injury first occurred during the Wakefield match and he played with it against Warrington. He was warned that if he continued to play on it, he could end up with a serious problem and so he didn't play today. That means, in fact, they probably did train as if Leon was not going to be available. I just think that what we saw today is as good as we will ever get from a Wilko/Moore combo.
(The decision not to play him was made on Friday btw.)
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Don,t think (48 hours) is enough time to adjust for the no 6 position, he needed all week to work on all the play executions. His best ever game against Leeds was at stand off and was probably well prepared for it.'"
Freak game! He never played that well before or after, everything come off for him that day.
He prob didn't have enough time to prepare but isn't he suppose to be a ball playing loose forward?
Loose forward and stand off are much the same these days.
The drop ball in first min of 2nd half with nobody near him and the kick at the end is no excuse if he was playing stand off, 2nd row or loose forward!
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| Considering you had no halfbacks on display yet still nearly turned Leeds over then you should be proud of your teams efforts today.
With Pryce and Eastmond in there you wouldve been sat behind your keyboards booking up hotels for Wembley now.
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| Quote ="t.m.t.b.f."CWith Pryce and Eastmond in there you wouldve been sat behind your keyboards booking up hotels for Wembley now.'"
I liked you until you said this.
Now I just want to cry.
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| We played a decent side without a recognised half and still had and possibly should gave won the game. To criticise individuals is p1ss poor, they all ran their blood to water were just copping to many injuries.
What makes it worse is it's never spread across the squad, ie a back crisis no centres etc and now no halves. The effort was there for all to see, and for me it just fills me with confidence for the playoffs but long term were developing a hell of a squad with some superb youngsters.
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