not realy pal it's a simple list, which centres are better than senior? it's an opinion on rugby, obviously you don't have one. As I said people will disagree but no centre is a stand out above senior. senior has been hot and cold this season but that's the team more than one individual. I'm just genuinely intrested to know your opinion.

Love that logic!

I agree with that, i have no respect for players who come here on undoubtably good wages to run back home as soon as a deal is offered

I think your wrong re tronc he went home not for a better deal but because the deal was good enough to go home. No way would he get more wedge than he got at wakey. it's a case of is it worth been in this $hit hole for the extra cash? I would think the same with Eastwood if true.

I assume you have your wires crossed here mate (misquoted), as it wasn't me who mentioned Senior. Read the post again!

Sorry my bad

why would he retire when he still has 1/2 blockbusting runs a season left in him?

Plus new coach for saints and potential new coach for leeds (McClennan's off contract) means lot's of potential change for 3 big players.

If they don't do it this year I reckon warrington will win the super league title next season.

Centres better than senior?

I'll chip in.

Matt Gidley
George Carmont
Martin Gleeson
Matt King
Chris Flannery.....

To name but a few. On his day a decent player but not the best centre in SL.

George Frickin Carmont. I've still never seen him play well. Gleeson too is anonymous, as is Gidley. Senior is better than all of those.

Senior past it. 1 season too many

Senior used to equal Rich Man's Scott Naylor.

Now he's just Scott Naylor.

When Carmonts good, he's very good. But his bodies falling apart these days, should be his last season as his defence is getting worse.

Gleesons the opposite, just very consistent in defence these days, but you rarely attribute a lot of tries to him, however since he arrived our right winger(s) are both in the top try scorers.

I still rate Senior though, but Gidley was always better and a few others have overtaken him.

Got in the dream team in his first season.
Made the break on Saturday that put Karl Pryce in for his try.

And Saints tried to sign him at the end of last season.

No. we never.

And Adrian Vowles won MOS. Not sure which is the bigger joke, TBH.



You mean he ran forward.



We must have been short of tackle bags.

So did James Roby
point taken

He made a break that put Karl Pryce in for a try. That alone is an achievement worthy of an award, give him man of steel.

Carmont can run

Roby is less of a joke than the MOS credentials of an Aussie mercenary whose "world beating" form flat-lined for a third of the season in question and curiously failed to materialise against the majority of SL's best teams. Which is as close to the definition of a "Flat Track Bully" as you'll get.

You forgot to add "but was still better than Roby"....

Roby was outstanding throughout the season. And he didn't go missing when it counted.

It's not his fault the rest of SL couldn't keep up.

Roby was so good they changed the rules of the game to slow him down. And made it all terribly boring.