Agreed.

Good luck and fortune has brought them 4 titles with someone not good enough at stand off.

Don't make 'em use the Ricky Bibby argument

I'd doubt they'd try and use that, would be a terrible argument. I think you have to give saints fans more credit than that.

They may not like mcguire but the simple fact is you don't win 4 titles with someone ''not good enough'' in such a pivotal position.

They're still hurting I see!

Saints fans are soooooooo funny



remind me again how many GF losers medals they have....









oh yes thats right... 3 on the trot isnt that some sort of WORLD record.

Good Player...shame your coaches have fooked him.

Saints fans haven't got any loser medals.



In any case what has that got to do with players being petulant?

We don't have medals of any kind. However, Saints still have more winners medals than Leeds do so your apparent jibe isn't really doing it. But it seems it is all you have left after Saints took your team apart at the weekend, chewed them up and spat them back out again.

You might want to have a look a paddy throwing Wellens before you call out Maguire.

It doesn't matter how clean cut a try is, he runs over to the ref thrusting his arms up and down like he's trying to take off.

Fooked him? ? ?

Havent you seen the way he plays, week in week out.

If thats fooked then whats the excuse for your props? ? ?

I think your being harsh on Jamie Peacock there, not done too bad has he.

Im talking present, not what he was like 3 or 4 years ago.

Didn't he make the Engage Dream Team for the last 2 years, hardly 'burned out' yet, still a quality forward.

He is a quality forward, always has been, however, Graham has passed him in terms of quality and performance.

Graham is well fooked..... 3 time world record loser

remind me what that great victory was worth ....oh yes of course a magnificent 2 whole points



see me after class

Cant argue with that, just thinking that with the 4 Nations tour at the end of the season, Graham will again get little 'time off' and eventually this will tell on him, not a problem for us (Wigan), but bad news for Saints and the National side.

A two points you lost and you may regret losing come the business end of the season.

You're wasting your fingers typing that.

Rule number 1 with saints fans is that all their players are perfect and it's always the opposition player in the wrong.

Wellens does start beefing after most tries.....but that's just us seeing things. If you stood with the st helens fans you'd see he does nothing at all because only opposition players do stuff like that. No st helens players commit foul play and any scrap that takes place is always the fault of the opposition player. If an opposition player smacks a st helens player (senior on wilkin last season, floored him) he 'IS A THUG!', however if an opposition player doesn't commit said action in a stand off he ''IS A COWARD'' (ryan bailey) so either way the opposition player is in the wrong.

The quicker you learn how biased sent ellins fans are, the better.

That's funny because I wasn't aware saints and leeds had medals of any kind.

The players, who play for the clubs st helens and leeds, receive medals. Of which the saints players are well stocked up on championship runners up medals.

Yup, Saints fans are the only sports fans to do this,not only in rugby league, but in fact any sport.

I don't recall everseeing a saints player pull someones hair, though.

Where as Leeds players medals probably end up on eBay somewhere.

Could say the same about Jammer who feels the need to act an utter bell in front of opposition fans whenever Saints score a try, one of the best props in the world but the man lacks class.

I agree. I'm annoyed Graham has brought celebrating tries into our sport. He should stick to throwing balls at debutants' heads.

And claiming balls have been stripped by players who are too busy clashing heads behind his back.