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| Quote ="saint at wire"
doesn't matter to you - the goons won't be playing either.'"
You really are a muppet mate. A complete muppet!!
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| Quote ="McClennan"I agree. Both Saints and Wigoon have a physical enough game to put them under pressure. I like our composure and muscle against Leeds and like Wigoon's big hits and determination against them.
One thing that Saints fans moaned about over the past couple of years is our perceived inability to match Leeds in poorer weather conditions. I'm more confident this year of facing them because of the way Potter has drilled into us our need to go forward with the ball through the pack. It will be a different Grand Final this year and it's a 50/50 game for me with Leeds one score favourites.'"
I got shot down on here a few weeks back after the Catalans vs Saints game at Knowsley Rd for claiming Saints would go on to win the Grand Final but i'm still just about sticking to that.
I've tried to be positive on our board and back us to edge the game tomorrow but in reality i believe we may just miss out. If that happens you guys will go on and win the grand final imo.
I see Leeds as a good side that have been fortunate to have been in the right place at the right time to get the success they have but are they a great side? I'm not too sure and i think they have more weaknesses then any other 'supposed' best team during any given year in the superleague era and that may well be exploited in the grand final.
The one thing that could cost Leeds imo is going into a final with the favourite tag on their heads. They have a few players who imo look like that tag could go to their heads and they'll believe the Grand Final will be a formality.
The winners of the game tomorrow will go on to win the Grand Final imo.
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| Quote ="Adrian Monk"You really are a muppet mate. A complete muppet!!'"
Aaaaww !
put the dummy back in.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Aaaaww !
put the dummy back in.'"
He's right though.
Why tempt fate?
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| Quote =".Alice."He's right though.
Why tempt fate?'"
Fair do's but why not be positive either?
I've no time or sympathy for perminent trolls. Its a bit like having piles.
Have they been booted off their own forum?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I don't think McGuire was offside it was a superb try that needed pace and brilliant execution, but I agree with with the first one being a knock on. (shouldn't the touch judge have seen it?)
TBH I'd rather play Leeds than Catalan.'" To be honest I'd rather play Wigan than St Helens. I think you're an average team being given too much credit and Saints are proven winners and in a final they would be a worry.
I'd love to watch Webb, Burrow and Diskin out of dummy half running at Fekka on the big Old Trafford pitch.
I don't think either St Helens or Wigan's packs are as good as the Cataln forwards.
I was disappointed with how sloppy we were tonight but we looked like a team that had a week off. We started badly, losing the collisions in the first 15 mins, but once we settled down be blew them away.
Our try at the start of the 2nd half probably saw us put the cue on the rack a little bit but I am glad of the hard contest and I am glad that performance is out the way before next week.
I suspect you will see a different Leeds next week, whoever it is that gets through.
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| Quote ="G1"To be honest I'd rather play Wigan than St Helens. I think you're an average team being given too much credit and Saints are proven winners and in a final they would be a worry.
I'd love to watch Webb, Burrow and Diskin out of dummy half running at Fekka on the big Old Trafford pitch.
I don't think either St Helens or Wigan's packs are as good as the Cataln forwards.
I was disappointed with how sloppy we were tonight but we looked like a team that had a week off. We started badly, losing the collisions in the first 15 mins, but once we settled down be blew them away.
Our try at the start of the 2nd half probably saw us put the cue on the rack a little bit but I am glad of the hard contest and I am glad that performance is out the way before next week.
I suspect you will see a different Leeds next week, whoever it is that gets through.'"
Your comments about Mc Guires knock on brfore your first "try" and the old rub of the green etc?
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| Not slagging off the ref tonight or anything, cause I don't usually go down that road, but here's a talking point for you that nobody seems to have picked up on...Did anybody notice the final pass for Leeds 1st try of the second half? Sinfield (I think) threw out a long pass dead on the 25yrd line, it took one bounce (in front of the line) and by the time it reached Donald it had clearly gone forward as he caught it well over the line!
That's the momentum rule for you, though.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"Your comments about Mc Guires knock on brfore your first "try" and the old rub of the green etc?'" Yes.
You're obsessive and you have an inferiority complex.
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| I've read all the posts in this thread and just watched the game back and if you think silverwood is s Leeds homer you are on crack! thats the worst set of calls our club has got in many a season in the last 40 of that game.
If the rfl had any self respect silverwood would be made to say sorry to the Leeds club, the fact the game ended with a pen to Leeds for the umpteenth Catalan head shot says it all.
Plus as bad A pro foul as you will ever see in a game unpunished?
it's just not on
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I've read all the posts in this thread and just watched the game back and if you think silverwood is s Leeds homer you are on crack! thats the worst set of calls our club has got in many a season in the last 40 of that game.
If the rfl had any self respect silverwood would be made to say sorry to the Leeds club, the fact the game ended with a pen to Leeds for the umpteenth Catalan head shot says it all.
Plus as bad A pro foul as you will ever see in a game unpunished?
it's just not on'"
I'd rather have Ganson next week (even against Saints), Silverwood was shockingly bad for both teams
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| Silverwood wasnt biased last night just totally incompetent and the 8 year old touch judge was waste of space always 20m behind the play whats that al labout ?????
Well played Les Cats refusing to lay down we blew you away in the 10mins either side of the half.
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| Quote ="Loop"I'd rather have Ganson next week (even against Saints), Silverwood was shockingly bad for both teams'"
No he wasn't. After giving Leeds all he could he then began to try and even things out when he thought the game was beyond Catalans reach. At least that is how it came over on TV. Why were Catalans penalised for the same shots etc that Leeds went unpunished for. That is the question that fans of other teams want to know.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder" Why were Catalans penalised for the same shots etc that Leeds went unpunished for. That is the question that fans of other teams want to know.'" Should've gone to specsavers.
From memory Diskin was penalised twice for high shots so I don't know what game you were watching.
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| Quote ="G1"Should've gone to specsavers.
From memory Diskin was penalised twice for high shots so I don't know what game you were watching.'"
I've already been, thanks. That's why I was able to watch the match and see everything. Yes Diskin was punished but there were lots of others mainly grapple tackles messing about at PTB etc that went unpunished.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"I've already been, thanks. That's why I was able to watch the match and see everything. Yes Diskin was punished but there were lots of others mainly grapple tackles messing about at PTB etc that went unpunished.'" Yet back in the real world Ryan Bailey was penalised for a grapple tackle by Silverwood.
You keep making things up that we weren't penalised for and I will keep giving you actual examples of why your glasses must've been steamed up while you were watching the game.
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| Quote ="G1"Yet back in the real world Ryan Bailey was penalised for a grapple tackle by Silverwood.
You keep making things up that we weren't penalised for and I will keep giving you actual examples of why your glasses must've been steamed up while you were watching the game.'"
Constant grapple tackles, penalised once?
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"No he wasn't. After giving Leeds all he could he then began to try and even things out when he thought the game was beyond Catalans reach. At least that is how it came over on TV. Why were Catalans penalised for the same shots etc that Leeds went unpunished for. That is the question that fans of other teams want to know.'"
yes of course everything except at least 2 clear sin binning offences by the Cats in the first half and at least one clear red car offence late in the second half
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"yes of course everything except at least 2 clear sin binning offences by the Cats in the first half and at least one clear red car offence late in the second half
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Ah bless. Was the ref unfair to you? Did he not help you out as much as usual? One try that should never have been not enough for you?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Ah bless. Was the ref unfair to you? Did he not help you out as much as usual? One try that should never have been not enough for you?'"
ahhhh didums I upset you..... cum on you Pieeeees
The ref was just plain incompetent last night for both sides hence my attempt at balancing the views of Agent M.
but I should have known better than to try logical argument on this board...
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"but I should have known better than to try logical argument on this board...
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Why? So we can lose another final?
The way the side is playing a GF appearance would be a surprise. I can't see us playing well enough to win against Wigan, but if we did a final against Catalan would be great. Losing to them wouldn't be a problem, but losing another to Leeds would give the Southstander cliques another 12 months of their ridiculous smugness.'"
Nothing ridiculous about our smugness sadboy...... It's perfectly justified
Hopefully it'll be the pie eaters by 8 points tonight, as it's getting a tad boring kicking your asses!
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"Nothing ridiculous about our smugness sadboy...... It's perfectly justified
Hopefully it'll be the pie`aters by 8 points tonight, as it's getting a tad boring kicking your asses!
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I hope its the Pies because then there will be two sets of sportsmen on the field and may the best team win
and the losers will take it on the chin consign the defeat to the history books and look forward to the future.
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| Quote ="MrsJudge"Constant grapple tackles, penalised once?'" Which ones went unpunished?
You lot really do have a complex about us.
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| its funny how biased the minority on this thread are. Lets face it Silverwood was shocking both ways last night. How a Cats player wasnt sin binned for holding down I dont know. But then a certain journo in his column this morning stated the ref was poor full stop. this is a journo who hates leeds, loves cas and once stated in his column he'd sooner see cas relegated than leeds win at OT. I think i'll trust his judgement.
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