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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"I agree with saddened.'"
Im sure Saddened's thrilled.
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| How did he have a bad game?
Because he knocked on and passed inside to a man in support but a Salford player got in between them?
If thats the criteria for having a bad game then I guess all 17 had a bad game since they all made some mistake or other.
Try focusing on what he did well - his footwork for the "no-try" was amazing, his break before his mis guided pass was also top drawer.
He wasnt leaky in defence and there is no way he gets critisism from me about losing a ball in the air to an established SL player who is about 6 inches taller than him.
I do have to wonder why this guy is now getting some stick - I have been nothing but impressed with him in his few appearances
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"People are entitled to their opinions. However he is a young lad making his way (out of position) and mistakes are expected to be made.
People starting threads slating his performance isent going to help (he reads these boards).
FWIW his a fantastic talent who will make it.'"
In that case I'd advise him to stop.
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| Sorry if I missed it, but why didn't Armstrong play? I didn't hear about him getting a knock or anything. Seems strange to play a young stand-off there instead.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"I agree with saddened.'"
That's a shock.
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| Quote ="rammsteinbloke"Sorry if I missed it, but why didn't Armstrong play? I didn't hear about him getting a knock or anything. Seems strange to play a young stand-off there instead.'"
Maybe Potter believes Wheeler offers more in attack than Armstrong?
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| Quote ="rammsteinbloke"Sorry if I missed it, but why didn't Armstrong play? I didn't hear about him getting a knock or anything. Seems strange to play a young stand-off there instead.'"
Maybe Potter just wanted to give someone else an opportunity?
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"He's also playing out of position.'"
which doesnt make you knock on, miss one on one tackles or throw passes to the opposition.
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| Quote ="saintc"which doesnt make you knock on, miss one on one tackles or throw passes to the opposition.'"
True. That's just being human.
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| Cant believe ur slaggin him off ive played with him for years at brook he is a class player. People wud b moanin in years down the line when saints havent brough any youngster through
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| Quote ="stelynch"Cant believe ur slaggin him off ive played with him for years at brook he is a class player. People wud b moanin in years down the line when saints havent brough any youngster through'"
No one is slagging him off. Ski suggested he has a big chest, which is obvious, and I suggested he had a poor game, which he did.
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| He didn't have a poor game. He made a few panicy mistakes but that didn't add up to a poor game, and is very understandable in a youngster put on the big field. He did some good stuff too. He had a mixed game not a poor game.
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| Coming into the team, but being played out of position is a mixed blessing for him. He will be glad to be there, but frustrated he can't play in what he feels is his natural position.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"True. That's just being human.'"
Didnt say it wasnt. Was pointing out that playing poorly is playing poorly, and those kind of mistakes are nothing to do with playing out of position. Tackling, passing and catching are pre-requisites of all positions.
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| Quote ="saintc"Tackling, passing and catching are pre-requisites of all positions.'"
Yeah. I'd like our senior players to remember that, since they don't seem to be particularly good at two out of three of them at the moment.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Yeah. I'd like our senior players to remember that, since they don't seem to be particularly good at two out of three of them at the moment.'"
maybe so, but that has nothing to do with whether Wheeler played poorly or not, and why he did.
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| True mate. You'd know this having been to the game on Friday, ahem.
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| Quote ="saintc"maybe so, but that has nothing to do with whether Wheeler played poorly or not, and why he did.'"
I was at the game and I didn't think he played poorly. I almost fell asleep, mind you, because Saints were - shall we say - not at their sparkling best, but Wheeler played fine and in fact did a couple of superb moves for which he should be very much congratulated.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I was at the game and I didn't think he played poorly. I almost fell asleep, mind you, because Saints were - shall we say - not at their sparkling best, but Wheeler played fine and in fact did a couple of superb moves for which he should be very much congratulated.'"
hey mate, Im not arguing whether he played well or not because I didnt see. All Im saying is that if he did drop a lot of ball, give possesion away and miss tackles then these errors arent anything to do with playing out of position. They are just errors.
As for Wheeler I havent seen enough of him to comment, hopefully he will turn out to be as good as people think he can be.
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| Quote He was playing out of position'"
Quote ="saintc"which doesnt make you miss one on one tackles .'"
I'd suggest it could well contribute.
It did seem strange to me that potter wasn't scared of leaving the young forwards on the pitch for extended time, but,not only did he prefer Flannery in the centre (which may have been a more comfortable position for Wheeler) but even when Pryce picked up a knock and we were winning by a hat-full, he didn't give him a run at 6?
I trust Potter on this for the simple reason that 3 years ago, Tomas Bosc was a reserve winger for Catalan.
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| Offside's faith = the way forward
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| Quote ="saintc"hey mate, Im not arguing whether he played well or not because I didnt see. All Im saying is that if he did drop a lot of ball, give possesion away and miss tackles.'"
According to the stats he made 3 handling errors and 1 missed tackle.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Maybe Potter believes Wheeler offers more in attack than Armstrong?'"
Tom hasnt played because his contact states that 5 first games means his current contract is ripped up and a new one offered, the club are thinking this through.
Potter wants Wheeler to get some game time under his belt but wants to see him play full back rather than at 6.
Kyle may come in when fit but the club have had a couple of offers for reserve players from the other code (Via a well know R.L 'legend!!)
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