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| That's a worrying comment.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Mmm, its obviously a team of guys that cover the signings - scouts to go out and look at players, Mike Rush to overseas the total spend etc, but surely the head coach should be saying "don't resign him (gardner), I need better"?'"
You would think so but that doesn't appear to be how it works. Unless there is an element of back covering of course.
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| Broughton and Briscoe are both out of contract, we should be going for them. They are both young players who can still improve and in Briscoe's case is a current international who can cover a few positions. Gardner and Meli are both out of contract, with their wage we can improve that positon and improve the squad elsewhere with Makinson and Swift fighting it out for the other spot.
Gardner has been a good, solid pro for us but he's bee in and out for the last 2 and a half years due to injury and form, there is no reason to keep him.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Broughton and Briscoe are both out of contract, we should be going for them. They are both young players who can still improve and in Briscoe's case is a current international who can cover a few positions. Gardner and Meli are both out of contract, with their wage we can improve that positon and improve the squad elsewhere with Makinson and Swift fighting it out for the other spot.
Gardner has been a good, solid pro for us but he's bee in and out for the last 2 and a half years due to injury and form, there is no reason to keep him.'"
Briscoe yes, Broughton no. I really don't see what fans see in him. Yes he's quick, but so was Kevin Penny. There's a reason why he has been at Leeds then Hull then Salford.
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| I wonder if Briscoe is one of Marwan Koukash's 6 new signings and they are going to "dump" Broughton (on us)?
Perhaps Gaskell is also one of these exciting new signings for them.
On the subject of Ade; I'd possibly give him one year certainly not two.
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| How much fun would it have been if the good Doctor had decided to save us from anonymity rather than Salford?
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| Break the bank and sign Dan Norton.
Search for Dan Norton tribute on the site that we daren't mention.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Briscoe yes, Broughton no. I really don't see what fans see in him. Yes he's quick, but so was Kevin Penny. There's a reason why he has been at Leeds then Hull then Salford.'"
Isn't Saints the logical next step in that sequence?
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| Quote ="Harry Pinner"Isn't Saints the logical next step in that sequence?'"
If I said that there would be uproar.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"According to Brown in his latest statement though contracts aren't simply his choice. They're the result of discussion with Rush and 'all the coaching staff'.'"
Have you got a link to this statement?
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| And I think you understand the reasons why.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I can only think of two times he's done that. Brisbane in the World Club Championships and Leeds last season. It's a totally stupid move to resign a player based on that, especially given Ade hasn't got the pace to be in position for those enough to make it a threat.'"
In ades defence, since bobby goulding left, we haven't really employed the kick to the corner option. This is maybe also because we rarely get out of our own half before having to kick. Which is a minor flaw in the signing Luke Walsh as a corner kicker plan!
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| I really can't see this, especially for 2 years. Can't fault his effort and commitment but it's not the right move going forward.
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| Don't often post but look at when he gets the ball how hard he runs at the other team. Isn't a winger only as good as the service you get, wasn't it shenton that played next to ade and how many passes did Ade get from him?
I think he tries veryhard and puts effort I to every game he plays.
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| He's well worth another 2 years provided he's cheap enough (I can't imagine why he wouldn't be). With Meli (presumably) on the way we need a bit of experience to go with all the raw kids we have everywhere else in the 3/4s.
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| I think tonight proved he's not worth a contract. Absolutely no impact on the game at all. Flapped at the three aerial challenges he was involved in tonight.
There must be a kid or two in the academy who could do as well, even if it's a centre being blooded.
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| I thought we should keep one of the old heads in the three quarters on for another year or two. With Meli retiring it makes sense to ease the new kids in.
Saying that, I would have liked to have seen Broughton in Saints colours, but this Gardner deal i think pretty much confirms that Broughton has signed for Huddersfield.
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| Nothing against Ade, but tonight he ran hard and with the right attitude anyone can offer that. He did not really get us on the front foot and his efforts under high balls is becoming more predictable. If it's in the air it's going to bounce.
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| Ade was one of the poor performers tonight. Makinson, on the othe hand, looked very assured back on the wing. (apart from his opening mistake)
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"Ade was one of the poor performers tonight. Makinson, on the othe hand, looked very assured back on the wing. (apart from his opening mistake)'"
He was playing on the left wing too, which I don't remember him doing previously although he may have. He was jonny on the spot on a few occasions so his stint at fullback may have rounded his game somewhat although he always, always plays up in the big games, and last night was definitely a big game!
So far as Gardner is concerned, nothing he did last night changed my mind about him. Although we know he will be getting a new contract - he'll probably still be playing on the wing when he's 40 - we could do better, I'm sure. And we are going to have the situation where our centre is faster than his winger, which can't be a good thing. Whereas the first try scored by Makinson shows just what can be done with pace and skill on the edges, and what a wonderful try that was to witness.
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| Does the fact that Gardner's getting a new deal say we're not getting Broughton?
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| Quote ="St. Rughead"Does the fact that Gardner's getting a new deal say we're not getting Broughton?'"
Why would we want a quick winger when we can re-sign a duffer who runs the ball in hard off his own try line but very rarely gets near the opposition line?
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Why would we want a quick winger when we can re-sign a duffer who runs the ball in hard off his own try line but very rarely gets near the opposition line?'"
Because he tries really really hard and he's been with us years. Thats all it takes to get a new deal at Saints, ability, speed and age are not factors we seem to bother with hence I also expect us to sign up good old Wello for another year or 5
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Why would we want a quick winger when we can re-sign a duffer who runs the ball in hard off his own try line but very rarely gets near the opposition line?'"
Maybe, just maybe, Broughton turned us down? But lets not let the real world get in the way of your constant downer on everything the club do...
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Why would we want a quick winger when we can re-sign a duffer who runs the ball in hard off his own try line but very rarely gets near the opposition line?'"
Gardner (and Meli) are both better than Broughton.
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