Sia back to being stepped so easily. Wello is an absolute joke of a fullback.

They are sooooooo much more aggressive than we are. This could be a hammering.

Pass to Hock was a 45 degree shocker. Loved how sky didn't show a single replay from the side and pretended it was fine.

Great try. Oh for a proper fullback.

playing great saints, fantastic, really getting into their faces and playing with a bit of pride and passion!

another great example there as the pies score yet again.!!
i absolutely hate charnley. not because he s just scored, but from day one when he appeared in super league, there s just something about him that makes me hate the foooker.

and now the 4th try, brilliant saints, proud of the effort and commitment you are all showing......

Wello you are embarrassing yourself. Just take it with a bit of class or do something to prevent it instead of crying like a girl.

25 mins and the games gone. How shameful. The goons simply want it more than we do , they are dominating in the middle and Wheeler looks lost in defence.

He needs to stop moaning all the time and act like a proper captain

Except girls wouldn't be crying. They'd be getting even.

He's crying like a baby, and making a first class fool of himself.

Both the team and the coaching set up needs tearing down and rebuilding. We've coasted on the DA years too long now. This is sh*t.

Utter drivvel. I've stopped watching. It's generally been a great Magic weekend. I don't want to watch our abject humiliation at the hands of Wigan even if our players do.

No doubt we will be told that "we were not that far off" and that "we just made a couple of mistakes".

Indeed. And the first mistake was to say that when the fans can see we are miles off them this season! Always better to be honest instead of giving out meaningless spin.

Wellens has been one of our better players and has shown some passion and concern. He had every right to go to the ref to ask him to check for obstruction. Sia has made a few mistakes today and needs to come out with his better head on in the second half.

Pretty much summed up in a few words.

We've had this coming, and some people (including some at the club) have clearly been living on adifferent planet. I predicited Wigan by 40+ to friends and got laughed at. It's plain to see how badly we are coached, we have played off Roby with no plan B for years now and Anderson was the one who started it. 4 drives and one identical move is simply not enough any more at this level.

Bring on Brown, things need shaking up. He have no organiser, no leader and very little pace. I'm sure these will be Brown's first task and he'll sort it.

The whole team has made one fundamental mistake: not turning up.

They should be fined for offences against rugby league.

Embarrassing. Being out-played by 11 players.

Saints are too soft, there's no aggression in the tackle. The line doesn't move up quickly and with menace like wi*an's does, just wait for the ball-carrier to build up a head of steam to get the upper hand in the collision. I'm lost as to why Hock decided to take his screw out because it's not like Saints had been digging at wi*an players.

Hats off to LMS. He's really had a go. The only Saints player whose performance could be approached without a gasmask.

What we're seeing here is the fruits of a well drilled coaching set up. Wigan got it right with Maguire and his backroom team, and it is continuing now. Also benefits their youngsters greatly, who look leagues ahead of ours.

Sadly, we got Royce Simmons.

True.

A couple of players but in *OK* performances to go with LMS's good showing - but apart from that, garbage.

Except he was fired months ago. So this is nothing to do with him. We've got Rush and Cunningham, ie two extremely inexperienced individuals who were dropped on by a Chairman who thought we were still the 2006 team. He may now realise that we are not.

LMS gave it everything, always liked Wilkin give him 100% support but now he is looking sad the number of fouls he commits! Never have I seen a Saints stand off look so slow!

Can we please have LMS back he must be missing London & his Millwall team lol!

Maguire put in place the structures for success at Wigan, Ape has built on that,we have gone backwards with Potter and Simmons. DA was the last top coach we had.

Your showing your lack of understanding, sadly things cant be changed overnight , hopefully with the Brown appointment he will be influencing some changes already (transfers and contract renewals) and he will have a good pre season to get his idea's bedded in.

Even more idiotic than normal, JW is not a standoff, he is a loose forward or second row

maguire changed the bad culture to a great one he turned the lazzy players into workaholics. shaun wane was incharge of defence when maguire was here and i would also say the attack has stepped up another few notches aswell. i dont think anyone can try and say shaun wane is just living off the scraps from maguire.