Whatever handicaps other teams faced - they can hardly be any worse than entering the playoffs without the league's best scrum half and the likes of Jordan Turner and Lance Hohaia assuming the roles of playmaker. And if Wigan were down a man - we were down to zero halves. If you don't consider such "winning under TRUE pressure" then I await with interest your comments should Leeds win in similar circumstances.

What that tells us is that Saints are guilty of not having a good young backup should an injury happen. You may not have had 'proper halves' but you still had an extra man on the field for SEVENTY EIGHT minutes, if you really think that you were under real pressure then you're deluded. All teams have injuries at that point, I doubt McIlorum was sat in the stands because of tactical reasons now was he?

So you are trolling.

No Peter he was just giving an opinion that you found too difficult to respond to with any reasonable retort

Spot on. Any opinion that isn't "Saints have the best set of forwards ever assembled in RL history" is way beyond his capabilities of debate. I take back my previous claim of him NOT being an idoit....he quite clearly is.

I'm devastated.

Excellent play by Warrington. Showed how to play against Leeds.

Took them to the cleaners, really.

I think we are now too beefy to play like either Warrington or Leeds.

No. But we can keep the ball in play through offloads. There are many ways to skin a cat.

True. So long as they are not the Alex Walmsley lob em anywhere style offloads!