That's exactly my point. The club has gone stale and a change is needed of a change. I think 5/6 player change over is needed to freshen the place up.

We wouldn't be in this mess if previous coaches and McManus had brought new blood in gradually over the years. We left it to long and this is what we got.

I remember getting slated on here for predicting that this would happen. Even top teams need to bring new blood in and get shut of deadwood. We didnt do that and now we are paying the price.

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All you need now is Royce back and to field the while u19s. Happy days

I take it they didn't want Ade?

Good signing for Salford this, put him outside the boy from Melbourne thats one heck of an attacking option.

Always thought he was decent in the centres too.

Gonna be fun next season when we play salford with Walsh's kicking game

then again if the 'tactician' Brown is in charge we'll probably kick the other way

I'd rather face Makinson or Swift than Meli.

He's a big powerful player and when on his game can be top class. He's actually been very consistent for the past 4/5 years. We all know his weakness.

We should've found a replacement for Meli 2 years ago but looking at our current decisions, we're getting rid of the wrong winger who's out of contract.

IMO we should be getting rid of Meli and Gardner, and perhaps we are?

Wind it back further and assume we never even signed him. We could be at least a couple of Grand Finals wins ahead of where we are now.

Yes, he's made high profile errors, but the mattter of the fact is, in a full strength Saints squad, Francis Meli has been first choice winger for eight seasons. Our top try scorer god knows how many seasons.

Good luck at Salford, Franny.

The matter of fact is he's cost us grand finals. This 'feature' of his game is why he was released from the NRL and was never taken back.

My biggest fear is with us letting Meli go is that instead of getting a replacement in or using Swift who looks very promising we'll sign up Ade and use him and Makinson which would be horrible.

Quote ="Saddened!"Wind it back further and assume we never even signed him. We could be at least a couple of Grand Finals wins ahead of where we are now.'" www.saints.org.uk/home/player.php?num=16630 He scored 140 tries in 215 appearances, without those we might not have even got to the Grand finals.

Quote ="Saddened!"Wind it back further and assume we never even signed him. We could be at least a couple of Grand Finals wins ahead of where we are now.'" www.saints.org.uk/home/player.php?num=16630 He scored 140 tries in 215 appearances, without those we might not have even got to the Grand finals.

Stop speaking sense...

Is Alwx brown from HKR still available?
I'd take a punt on him. Like Meli, he's big and strong, but he's quick,young and british too. From what I've seen, he's got mistakes in his game, but what available winger hasn't?

Just to cheer you all up, today's MEN suggests Dr Koukash has strongly denied offering Paul Wellens a deal for next season. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... et-4862090

Just to cheer you all up, today's MEN suggests Dr Koukash has strongly denied offering Paul Wellens a deal for next season. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... et-4862090

Seriously?

Some people are celebrating the departure of a very good winger in Meli as a liability, I'm not sure we want to bring in a vastly less talented and vastly more error prone replacement.

Scored many crucial tries as well as some crucial errors.

If we were ambitious/ruthless he should never have got a contract renewal and been properly replaced.

It probably an indication of the current squad that he has been our best back for a few years.

And we will miss him.

Cheers Roger, a stalwart you've been. Ive always believed in you even when others didnt. The place won't ever be the same.

Not overly sure on Alex Brown but he'd come cheap and he is younger than Meli with ability. Might be worth a punt?

I'm not celebrating Meli leaving. I'm a big fan.

A wing partnership of Makinson and Gardner looks less than pedestrian. Whilst Makison is a solid pro, he's yet to kick on from that (maybe next year wil be his year). Gardner, whilst an honest toilet, is fairly farcical on the whole when in his "non-catching" periods. Swift looks like he has a bit of magic, but it feels like the club are almost reluctant to involve him at times - perhaps due to his part-time status.

Someone like Brown would at least give us a bit of strike and perhaps we could coach some of the errors out of him (given how terrific our coaching staff are, hey Eamonn?)?

Alex Brown is the sort of player we should stay away from. He's not good enough and never will be. Its those sort of signings that is a major problem.

That pretty much sums him up to be fair.