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| Quote ="St pete"For me he goes missing against good teams.'"
and bad ones too.
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| I thought last night Tony P played ok but generally speaking I don't think he has shown the form of his first few matches since he had that virus. Whether he's lazy or not I don't know, but sometimes he sure has looked like he's been avoiding the work.
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| I think he's been pretty consistent for most of the season. If you're expecting him to be throwing tacklers off every game then you have to allow for him not being as good every game. It's impossible for the guy to be breaking tackles left, right and centre every time he comes on the pitch. His yardage making has been pretty consistent and without him we'd have struggled even more.
Typical fickleness. Lose a game or two and it's the coach, the tactics, players not giving their all etc.
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| I don't think tony p has had the impact the club was looking for. Fair enough he makes good yards and he adds size to what's a small pack but if I'm being honest I think he's been a let down.
I think he is little lazy or bit half hearted at times. Him being half hearted resulted in ablett getting over for his try last night. Tony p should have rapped him up.
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| I just dont see this laziness from tony, for me he is phenominal and his stats back it up, he's one of our top tacklers, metre makers, carrier, tackles bust, gives away very few penalties, lots of offloads (have come down since he was moved to prop) and allthis playing most of the season out of position. The best import into the league this year.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"What happened? He was ripping defenses apart at the start of the season but now barley makes 5 meters!'"
Coached out of him.
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| Quote ="roader"Coached out of him.'"
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
It hasn't!!!!!!!!!!!
8.64 metres/carry is one of the best in the entire league!!!
Jammer gets 7.21
Peacock gets 7.28
Morley gets 8.03
Some fans seem to see what they want to!
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
It hasn't!!!!!!!!!!!
8.64 metres/carry is one of the best in the entire league!!!
Jammer gets 7.21
Peacock gets 7.28
Morley gets 8.03
Some fans seem to see what they want to!'"
Everything is Potter's fault.
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| Quote ="WidnesExile"Here we go I knew somebody would come up with that one.
So you are telling me his lack of effort can be excused because he's out of position!
Tell that to most of the players who have played out of position this year then!
No excuse I'm afriad.'"
Lack of effort? Nonsense. He didn't have a bad game at all. Not spectacular, but made plenty of yards.
You can't ignore the fact that he's not playing in his natural position. He's devastating when he has a bit of room to work with out wide, but it's a different ball game up the middle. The equivalent player at Leeds is Lauitiiti, and I dare say he wouldn't do anywhere near as much damage if he was moved to prop either.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"Everything is Potter's fault.'"
I blame Meli!
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| 3rd highest metre making forward in the SL behind Graham and Peacock.
This is despite missing some games through injury
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| Quote ="Dux"Lack of effort? Nonsense. He didn't have a bad game at all. Not spectacular, but made plenty of yards.
You can't ignore the fact that he's not playing in his natural position. He's devastating when he has a bit of room to work with out wide, but it's a different ball game up the middle. The equivalent player at Leeds is Lauitiiti, and I dare say he wouldn't do anywhere near as much damage if he was moved to prop either.'"
Excactly, Tony is miles ahead of Lauititi, and leeds love him!
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"3rd highest metre making forward in the SL behind Graham and Peacock.'"
Stop dealing in facts!
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| Quote ="McClennan"Typical fickleness. Lose a game or two and it's the coach, the tactics, players not giving their all etc.'"
Hang on mate thats way out of line.
If you look back at the thread re Tony P much earlier in the season you'll see I said he was overrated then.
Not Fickle at all - never been greatly impressed! so there
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| Quote ="McClennan"I think he's been pretty consistent for most of the season. If you're expecting him to be throwing tacklers off every game then you have to allow for him not being as good every game. It's impossible for the guy to be breaking tackles left, right and centre every time he comes on the pitch. His yardage making has been pretty consistent and without him we'd have struggled even more.
Typical fickleness. Lose a game or two and it's the coach, the tactics, players not giving their all etc.'"
Pretty much it, but for the fact that if we lost Tony P, we'd really struggle.
He is one of the few players in the pack capable of carrying defenders with him and off loading.
Has been a good buy and is an important member of the pack.
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| Quote ="WidnesExile"Hang on mate thats way out of line.
If you look back at the thread re Tony P much earlier in the season you'll see I said he was overrated then.
Not Fickle at all - never been greatly impressed! so there
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You really don't like other peoples opinions do you?
He's the 3rd highest meter making forward in the comp as well as one of the highest scoring forwards in the comp.
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| lol overated.
Brilliant
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| McClennan's post is spot on, can't add anything to that.
Quote ="WidnesExile"If you look back at the thread re Tony P much earlier in the season you'll see I said he was overrated then.'"
You're entitled to your opinion but were wrong then and by questioning his effort you are certainly wrong now. What are you expecting from him out of interest?
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| Quote ="NSL"McClennan's post is spot on, can't add anything to that.
You're entitled to your opinion but were wrong then and by questioning his effort you are certainly wrong now. What are you expecting from him out of interest?'"
I'm one of tony P's biggest fans, i think he's been phenominal, but exile is entitled to his opinion, but i'd be interested on what he bases it on?
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| Started strongly, but faded very quickly as the season progressed. Lets hope that he puts the effort in during the play offs......not hopeful though, he seems to be a bit of a waster...
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| Quote ="The Blockhead"Started strongly, but faded very quickly as the season progressed. Lets hope that he puts the effort in during the play offs......not hopeful though, he seems to be a bit of a waster...'"
what do you (and others) base this on?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"what do you (and others) base this on?'"
Fairy dust I think.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Fairy dust I think.'"
I'm begining to think that! the doubters of tony (and others) can never base their arguments on any facts what so ever. I know i'm a bit of a stato, but thats the way the modern game is. I have not seen a bad game from tony.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I'm begining to think that! the doubters of tony (and others) can never base their arguments on any facts what so ever. I know i'm a bit of a stato, but thats the way the modern game is. I have not seen a bad game from tony.'"
I base my arguments on many (many) years of watching RL and I try and avoid stats as they often lie.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I'm begining to think that! the doubters of tony (and others) can never base their arguments on any facts what so ever. I know i'm a bit of a stato, but thats the way the modern game is. I have not seen a bad game from tony.'"
I think tony p does good job at prop and have said all year that IMO he should stay prop. He makes very good yards which is massive for us with our lightweight pack.
My only problem with the big guy is his very soft tackles. A lot of the time he just holds on to the player and puts his weight on them to hold them.
He should be bouncing them for size of him. The ablett try is a good example of his grab tackles. He should have been trying to drag him back.
All in all I think he been a ok signing.
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