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| Quote ="southernsaint7"Sammut is inconsistent and a diabolical defender, he got shown for what he was when saints pin pointed him at odlsum. Comparing him to Longy? jeez!
Dobson a robot? If a robot can help hull kr into one of the better attacking teams in the league then I'll happily have a robot'"
We need a robot, though. He might not be as exciting to watch as other halves, but he'll allow Hohaia and Lomax to shine more.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"We need a robot, though. He might not be as exciting to watch as other halves, but he'll allow Hohaia and Lomax to shine more.'"
Chase would be a mistake to even consider imo, he is too inconsistent and seems to be a big fish in a small pond in a very poor Cas team. Has never really seemed above ordinary when you see him playing for England surrounded by better players and his attitude is very poor.
As Offside Monkey says above, I think a half back like Dobson at 7 would see Lance become a lot more effective at 6 and would help Lomax look even better at full back, would welcome that one with open arms. Whilst not a flair player, Dobson is a solid half back who can organise a line well and has a superb kicking game, all things we have lacked since Longy left imo
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| To get Both Chase & Dobson I think it a little more than day dreaming! can't see Mac paying for both and releasing two import slots is a big ask! As everyone has said Chase will return down under and he will not get a work permit, Dobson he always seems happy where he is and his last extended contract was to the end of 2014, so how much to buy him out?
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| Dobson/Chase would be a classic Organiser/Maverick combination. Dobson/Sammut would be decent too. But Dobson/Hohaia or Dobson/Swift, Wheeler or a.n.other youngster would solve a lot of our problems.
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| Quote ="jaybs"To get Both Chase & Dobson I think it a little more than day dreaming! can't see Mac paying for both '"
It's a question of economics though.
Would signing a crowd pleasing half (with the potential resultant on field improvement) add 1,500 to the average crowd?
13 home games, 1500 people, £25 a pop quickly gets you to about half a million quid.
Clearly that's assuming that we are currently at maximum cap so no payroll differential going forward.
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| Sammut is under contract until the end of 2014 and an integral part of our team. As we're no longer totally strapped for cash I can't see us letting him go any time soon (I hope).
Chase's biggest problem is his attitude and discipline, but playing in a better side he'd get less frustrated and it might be less of a problem. Dobson is a much more reliable performer with less of the X factor. I doubt either Cas or HKR would want to lose either so it would take a pile of cash to get them. Have you cap space for someone on more than £100k per year?
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| Interesting comment about Chase by Stevo on SL Backchat this week about him doing nothing for 77 minutes then pulling off a great move with 3 minutes to go when it was too late that gets the headlines.
He's too inconsistent for me, and not good enough when he's not on form. IMO we need a consistent 7 and although I think Dobson is little more than a standard SL half back like Smith, at this moment in time it's what we need.
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| I cannot see how we are at our full cap limit? Shocking misuse of wages if we are.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"I cannot see how we are at our full cap limit? Shocking misuse of wages if we are.'"
Aye, somebody is being massively overpaid if true.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Aye, somebody is being massively overpaid if true.'"
Josh Perry on £150k a year must be a clue!!
Still wouldnt have thought we would be spending full cap with players who have left compared to who has come in last couple of years
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Interesting comment about Chase by Stevo on SL Backchat this week about him doing nothing for 77 minutes then pulling off a great move with 3 minutes to go when it was too late that gets the headlines.'" I don't htink Chase is the one for us, but Cas got humped by Hudds. Considering the difference in teams, its amazing that a half can do anything at all - and he didn't just turn up with 3 mins to go. I actually thought during the game that he was putting in a lot of effort to try and get things moving. Unfortunatley, that was after he'd got him self sin-binned and Hudds had stretched the lead.
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| Dobson or someone in the same ilk is the nessasary part of the team we are missing. If you have a Dobson, you can still look pretty effective, without a real 6.
Getting free spirit in Chase or Sammut, would improve us, but not really solve the issue for us.
We need a 7 and a 6, but 7 is the critical position.
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| Sammut being compared to Longy. Couldnt lace his boots, a very average scrum half & certainly nowhere near the capabilities of Dobson or the qualities of Chase, like or loathe him. We don't need a maverick who can't tackle, we are a young squad that needs direction & crying out for a kicking game. What do some ppl watch.
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| I would take Chase at the drop of a hat. There isn't a half back with his ability in this competition. Dobson I can take or leave because Chase is in a different league and given the choice it's an easy one for me.
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| Just read some of the rest of this thread. Sammut? Give over.
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| Quote ="McClennan"I would take Chase at the drop of a hat. There isn't a half back with his ability in this competition. Dobson I can take or leave because Chase is in a different league and given the choice it's an easy one for me.'"
If it was a question of either Chase or Dobson, I'd pick Dobson.
I like Chase, but we need an organiser atm. If we secure a good 7, then I'd agree with you. Currently, he's not what we need.
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| I know he's not but Dobson isn't so good as to be a better choice i.e. Chase would give us far more value overall.
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| I actually think Chase is more our type of player. Our halves have always been the 'maverick', play as you see it type players, so therefore I'd take Chase before Dobson.
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| Quote ="southernsaint7"Sammut is inconsistent and a diabolical defender, he got shown for what he was when saints pin pointed him at odlsum. Comparing him to Longy? jeez!'"
I didn't compare him to Longy. I said he was a 'Longy style player'. There is a difference there if you care to read my post properly before mocking it.
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| Quote ="theres only one stan wall"Sammut being compared to Longy. '"
As I said, I didn't compare Sammut to Longy. I said he was a 'Longy style player', which he is. He has that maverick quality to him and can pull off the extraordinary.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"I cannot see how we are at our full cap limit? Shocking misuse of wages if we are.'"
We haven't been up to the cap for 3 years.
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| Quote ="Top Saint"We haven't been up to the cap for 3 years.'"
Then our recruitment and current squad retention is even more mystifying.
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| Quote ="Carlos Alberto"Then our recruitment and current squad retention is even more mystifying.'"
As much finance as possible was directed towards the stadium. Now the spending on the stadium is finished ( cladding apart ) we will begin spending up to the cap when the coach has identified who he wants.
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| Quote ="PAC"Lol Miller to Hull FC ?
As for Rangi he cant get a visa to stay past this season end even with his marriage and the scrapping of the border agency he still cant stay so its back home for him.
Dobson is another story,cant him going anywhere this season but next is another story ..'"
Cant even come on the saints board without bringing FC into it haha you really are a tw@
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