Six, plus five, plus Gidley makes 12. That is why we are not doing well. We should have 17 players.

stop making excuses for him he's past it...he's been a good un in his time.now he's far to slow.

If you knew Gidley's game you'd know he's never been the quickest.

Correct.
Piealiki ran away from him at the JJB to score.

I just wonder if coaches and opposition have sussed him out. His trademark in / out step followed by the flicked pass.

He has been a great but keeping him on another year may mean that Chris Dean will leave.

Senior by a mile

rather have Gidley for another year than Dean to be honest.

anyway, we do actually want some players with experience next year - we cant release every player over the age of 23.

We are only keeping him so you can still call us dads army next year, you heard it here first

He is not getting the service; we are not giving him the ball in space to do anything.

I also wonder whether teams are also looking to concentrate their defence on Gidley's side, knowing we don't have a specialised on the left.

I thinkWarrington may have that award ,depending on who they release.

If you go back to a post I made earlier in the season I suggested Cameron Phelps would have been a good signing for Saints.

It was poo pooed by many on here.


Looking at his form of late I'd say that I was correct.

he has come on very well recently

Yep. I always judge players on 6-8 games.

Give over. I'd look good playing in your side.

Going back to the original point it's not that big a surprise really that we've lost three games since we lost Maurie to injury which has left us light up front.

Look, if you don't stop talking sense I'll have to ban you. Knee-JERKS and suicide cases only on here, la...

Well said!

whilst talking about centres what are your honest views on Kris whelham?

I've seen him on TV and he looks a really good prospect.

Rate the kid! Strong runner with ball in hand,can beat a man and isn't shy defending.

And he's quick.

Now we know you are taking the michael

Have you seen the speed of our team? Vaeliki is quick to us.

He's not been getting the service since Long has been out.

We have been playing with a right handed scrum half so play will naturally flow to the left wing. When Long is back (left handed) play will naturally flow to the right.

So we only need one centre then ?

We have only got 1 this season

Your strongest centre should always be on the side which play goes to the most and that does depend on which side your halfback passes to more easily.

We'll have show Kyle some Micron VHS vids of Andy Gregory and how he managed to pass both ways. He had to turn his back to the opposition to pass to the left or was it the right!