He's primarily been playing stand off, so not a comparison you can make with stats IMO. I doubt this rumour is true, it sounds highly unlikely to be true, so it's not like we need to argue this point.

But getting shot of Wello at fullback is a must, surely people can see that now?

Don't be ridiculous! Id play full back before Grix for Saints.

Wellens is our leading tryscorer this season, still as dependable as ever and links into the line well on attack...granted he is getting old now and we do need to think about a replacement for him, but would be more than happy to have him for next year before Grix

Rather than sign Grix up, I would rather see either Makinson to full back, or even Hohaia to full back and Gaskell to 6 as both of these options would be better than signing an average at best player who is nowhere near good enough to play in the Red V

Methinks you jest. Either that or your on wacky backy. Sorry saddened cant possibly agree with you. Wellens has been a stand out player this season and you've just got it in for him.
Very sad Saddened

How old are you? Kind of feels like you are about 12 ish? Wellens has been a very good player for us, a legendary figure. But he's been a shadow of his former self for a while and whilst still competent he really does lack in every area that is important for a modern day fullback.

So how come, whilst I accept some of his shortcomings due to his age, that many authorities in the game still regard Wellens as, and cite him accordingly, as one of the best full backs around in SL?

Wouldn't want Grix taking Gaskell's role in the side. Wouldn't want Grix taking Makinson and Swift's role in the side when Wellens steps aside.

No thanks.

He does what a full back should do exceptionally.
Unrivalled under the high ball, one of the best tacklers around and his positional sense is great. Chimes into the attack at the right time, look at Warrington away this year as an example.

People are quick to mock his speed, no pun intended but i bet they'd take him in their side. Id rather have had Wellens without speed than someone like Richie Mathers for the last few years.

A few years ago yes, not anymore. He has been at fault for too many tries this season for my liking. Some of his attempts have been laughable. Unfortunately some fans allow loyalty to get in the way of reality.

Because he's such a nice guy. It's hard to criticise Wello because of what he's done for the club. I feel sick every time I slag him off on here, the man has bled for the club so many times and put his all into it for more than a decade.

Wello could do what he's doing now, (i.e taking the odd bomb, making the odd tackle, backing up and running onto a few balls near the opposition line to score) until he's 40 comfortably. Does that mean we should let him?

IMO Wello has appeared to be performing better under Rush and KC because he's not as involved in the attack. He's not attempting to chime into the line as much and therefore is being noticed for dying with the ball and wasting tackles. A good example is the Catalans match, what did Wello do during that game? He's not around to make the tackles he used to, he's made a fool of himself several times in one on ones over the past couple of seasons and his contribution to the attack is that of a 'master', he still knows what to do so will get plenty of tries as he has the game knowhow and savvy to be in those positions, but he's not a threat at all. Sam Tomkins gets the ball in your 20 and you close your eyes, he gets it in broken play you start screaming. Wello gets it in broken play you discuss mowing the lawn or the weather, he gets it in the opposition 20 and the opposition fans breath a sigh of relief.

I hope we don't sign him, he's not good enough to play for a top four team.

Would of been gutted if it was last season but not now, been poor for majority of this season and tbh now is the time he should be moving on,

In all seriousness you could probably apply that statement to your entire first team squad couldn't you? I don't think you have had many consistent performers this year.

Wonder if hudds fans would swap grix for wello?

Apart from brough and Crabtree, personally when they were on about it, couldn't see for life in me why saints would want him, but it's a funny old game and if he got back to his best then he would be a good signing.

If Grix ever played full-back for us Saddened will be crying for Wellens' return within three weeks. Barely Super League standard this season.

Good God no!

Bit older than you perhaps , with a lot more sense, and far more reasoning powers.

As stated before, youve just got it in for him. Take a step back and look again. Take the blinkers off. He is one of our best players.And you know it.

Scott Grix is a reasonable player but you would want to sign a player like him as a young man. Jordan Turner, for example, is still a young man and can be coached into being a better player. Thus, on the face of it, a good signing.

Grix also has that utility label, which he would want to get rid of. You would be hard pushed to say which one position he was good enough to make his own.

In the end if we sign old men then they need to be tried and tested at the highest level in his established position. This is why people had a problem with Hohaia being signed as a stand off/scrum half.

Wellens over Grix: yesterday....today.....tomorrow

Somebody said that just being a safe and defensive full back means we are missing out on the modern, attacking fullback. Wigan are missing out on a Challenge Cup Final.

Erm, so are we

You know what I meant.

Also note Grix's one on one attempt on Meli in the first half tonight and then Wellens one on one with the Giants forward in the second half.

Wello's defence was excellent tonight, twice he saved almost certain breakaway tries from being scored

Grix is a decent utility player, nothing more. Saints are a bit above his standard and he couldn't lace Wellens boots simple as that.

Looks to me as if a certain someone here has been trying to get a re-tweet off Pauly and has been mugged off!