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| Quote ="sgtwilko"nicked from the Leeds board just for you! conclusive evidence it was a try'"
Did Stevie Wonder draw the red line ? The referee should have used the white line and the relative positions of Maguire and Smith to rule the try out.
As for the game Leeds just edged it and Saints will rue individual errors that cost them.
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| At first I thought it was a dodgy call but the rule is where the ball is and where the try scorers back leg is, in this case if you pause it, its clearly a try IMO.
Also had saints scored and lost by one point or something you would have more right to be annoyed but even without the try Leeds still win 11-10.
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| Quote ="Supreme Sydney2002"Unreal decision to be honest. Took one look at it in the ground, could see he was off side so sat me arris down and awaited the call... my ears almost fell off when the TRY was put up on the screen... bad call, and we didnt need it as we already had individuals on our own team coming up with clangers like kicks out on the full, kickc dead in goal, knock ons, etc etc...
Bentham got that one wrong , and will go down as the worst reffing call in GF history ( to date ), surpassing the "joynt fell over" call, and the "withers knock on" call.'"
You are making yourself sound really really stupid mate Were you the muppet on the Sky screen then who looked totally aghast at a correct ruling.
Quote Stuart Cummins wrote : "I am happy with the call. The view you get from the rail camera is slightly ahead of the play, but the rule is that both of Smith`s feet had to be behind the ball - that is the key to this."
"If you look at the video sequence you will see that Smith checks himself, waiting for McGuire to kick through, and his body is leaning forward."
"But the key for the VR is to look where Smith`s feet are. His left foot is on the ground and when the ball is kicked his right foot is behind his left foot. His left foot is the key."
"The VR is looking at the point where the ball is kicked. Phil judged that Smith`s left foot was behind where the ball is kicked."
"Phil was adamant that he had no doubt about his decision, and he was sufficiently confident to award the try without resorting to using the benefit of doubt that a referee can use when he isnt certain about the decision"'"
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"You are making yourself sound really really stupid mate
Were you the muppet on the Sky screen then who looked totally aghast at a correct ruling.'"
Have you honestly NEVER read one of Syd's previous posts?
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"You are making yourself sound really really stupid mate
Were you the muppet on the Sky screen then who looked totally aghast at a correct ruling.'" this should put an end to it! But it won't most of them are thick or ignorant.
Posted in other thread too
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"You are making yourself sound really really stupid mate
Were you the muppet on the Sky screen then who looked totally aghast at a correct ruling.'" this should put an end to it! But it won't most of them are thick or ignorant.
Posted in other thread too
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"You are making yourself sound really really stupid mate
Were you the muppet on the Sky screen then who looked totally aghast at a correct ruling.'" this should put an end to it! But it won't most of them are thick or ignorant.
Posted in other thread too
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| I've watched it frame by frame and Smith was at least 12" in front when the ball was kicked through. It was an absolute shocker of a decision and thats from a Hull FC fan!!!
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| Quote ="Jim H"I've watched it frame by frame and Smith was at least 12" in front when the ball was kicked through. It was an absolute shocker of a decision and thats from a Hull FC fan!!!'"
Feck me I hope your not a carpet salesman then
In your eyes Burrow must be 6 foot tall as well to get penalised for a high shot.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"this should put an end to it! But it won't most of them are thick or ignorant.
Posted in other thread too'"
like you then ? I've read this thread (as much as I could stand) and you wont let go any more than some of the people claiming it was a shocker.
As for one of the other posts about it not mattering because of the final score then I would counter that and say that a game balanced at 11-10 is a totally different dynamic to one thats 17-10 (as it was).
All in all no matter what anyone says the try was given (FWIW wrongly IMO)
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| Every neutral fan i've talked to or has shared an opinion on this forum has called it offside. In real time it looked offside and then when at the game watching the video replay it quite clearly was marginally offside. Yet this leeds troll on here has the audaucity to call us thick and ignorant will one of the mods please remove this yorkshire muppet from the forum.
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| Everyone knows it was offside but judging by the Leeds board they are now trying to re-write history in some sort of 1984-inspired brainwashing scenario.
They even have a thread where they claim it's now officially categorised as onside.
Makes no difference now but for them not to admit they got a large slice of luck from that shocking decision is a bit odd.
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| Drawing lines that aren't even parallel with the ten metre line just shows how dumb these yorkshire idiots are.
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| Quote ="TheOtherOne"Everyone knows it was offside but judging by the Leeds board they are now trying to re-write history in some sort of 1984-inspired brainwashing scenario.
They even have a thread where they claim it's now officially categorised as onside.
Makes no difference now but for them not to admit they got a large slice of luck from that shocking decision is a bit odd.'"
This is like all our xmases come at once! Some of you are the worst losers on the planet! Even when the head of the refs says it's the right call you can't accept it!!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"icon_lol.gif
This is like all our xmases come at once! Some of you are the worst losers on the planet! Even when the head of the refs says it's the right call you can't accept it!!'"
It's not just the saints fans views you pillock it's the neutrals opinion also.
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| Quote ="St_Maca"Drawing lines that aren't even parallel with the ten metre line just shows how dumb these yorkshire idiots are.'" you are easy targets right now and I do feel sorry for ya. But when the head of the refs says it's the right call and you still can't have it you need some time out. Just think how sour you would be if it was the try that won the game, lucky it wasn't
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"icon_lol.gif
This is like all our xmases come at once! Some of you are the worst losers on the planet! Even when the head of the refs says it's the right call you can't accept it!!'"
But I'd rather use my own eyes that listen to what the head of the refs says. He's bound to back his man and shield him from abuse.
I could see it was offside in the ground and was relieved at the time. No one supporting Leeds cheered when they first showed it on the screen. All the neutrals around us were upset because they knew it was going to be disallowed. And it should have been.
You will see the same thing many times next season and they will always be correctly ruled out.
I think you will find I stated that Leeds were very worthy winners on another thread. You guys thoroughly deserved it.
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| Quote ="St_Maca"It's not just the saints fans views you pillock it's the neutrals opinion also.'" No it's not it just the usual suspects who post in these forums. apart from the odd couple of dozen fans from each club who actually post here alot 99.99% of fans think these forums are a joke. everyone knows it was a very tight 50/50 call and it went Leeds way. you can't handle that and you frustration is to been seen in your insults!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"No it's not it just the usual suspects who post in these forums. apart from the odd couple of dozen fans from each club who actually post here alot 99.99% of fans think these forums are a joke. everyone knows it was a very tight 50/50 call and it went Leeds way. you can't handle that and you frustration is to been seen in your insults!'"
Take it you wasn't at the match then lad? Every fan around us at the time including a couple of Leeds speccies were amazed the try was given. Fair play to Leeds they deserved the victory but get of your high horse and realise it was a poor decision by Bentham that in the end finsihed the game as a spectacle.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"No it's not it just the usual suspects who post in these forums. apart from the odd couple of dozen fans from each club who actually post here alot 99.99% of fans think these forums are a joke. everyone knows it was a very tight 50/50 call and it went Leeds way. you can't handle that and you frustration is to been seen in your insults!'"
Ironic!
Obviously worked up yourself lad calling the people on this forum thick etc. Think what you say before you post such drivel in the future or just P!ss off back to the whinos board.
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| Quote ="TheOtherOne"But I'd rather use my own eyes that listen to what the head of the refs says. He's bound to back his man and shield him from abuse.
I could see it was offside in the ground and was relieved at the time. No one supporting Leeds cheered when they first showed it on the screen. All the neutrals around us were upset because they knew it was going to be disallowed. And it should have been.
You will see the same thing many times next season and they will always be correctly ruled out.
I think you will find I stated that Leeds were very worthy winners on another thread. You guys thoroughly deserved it.'" I thought it was off side in the ground. But after watching it again at home a few times and understanding the rules as explained by the ref on the night and the head of the refs I think it was a close 50/50 that went Leeds way and it was a try.
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| Quote ="St_Maca"Ironic!
Obviously worked up yourself lad calling the people on this forum thick etc. Think what you say before you post such drivel in the future or just P!ss off back to the whinos board.
'" Thick is not an insult, some people just are. Maybe not too bright or ill educated may have been better!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I thought it was off side in the ground. But after watching it again at home a few times and understanding the rules as explained by the ref on the night and the head of the refs I think it was a close 50/50 that went Leeds way and it was a try.'"
I think it is very telling that Cummings had to write a piece for the rugby league press attempting to convince everyone Bentham was right. Cummings also said he could have understood a penalty try being awarded to Gardner for Webb's illegal tackle, but that wasn't given. I think his need to explain and defend his refs' decisions says more about those decisions than anything else. He clearly knows his refs were on thin ice.
Had it not been for Meli's two brainfarts I would say Leeds were extremely lucky to win on Saturday night. However, as I have acknowledged elsewhere, those two dodgy decisions (against Gardner and for you) were not the reason we lost. Meli was.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I think it is very telling that Cummings had to write a piece for the rugby league press attempting to convince everyone Bentham was right. Cummings also said he could have understood a penalty try being awarded to Gardner for Webb's illegal tackle, but that wasn't given. I think his need to explain and defend his refs' decisions says more about those decisions than anything else. He clearly knows his refs were on thin ice.
Had it not been for Meli's two brainfarts I would say Leeds were extremely lucky to win on Saturday night. However, as I have acknowledged elsewhere, those two dodgy decisions (against Gardner and for you) were not the reason we lost. Meli was.'"
by some random fluke end up sat next to an assistant coach of a super league club, he called every VR decision as the VR did, before the VR did, I raised the question of a possible penalty try when they replayed Webb's challenge, he said 'nah, not in the act of scoring'..
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I thought it was off side in the ground. But after watching it again at home a few times and understanding the rules as explained by the ref on the night and the head of the refs I think it was a close 50/50 that went Leeds way and it was a try.'"
But the explanation they gave isn't in the rule book, it doesn't say anything about planted feet and ball position.
What it actually says is that if you're in front of a team mate and he has the ball in his hands then you are offside. You can get put back onside if he gets in front of you or you give the opposing side 10 metres.
Cummins has come out with a load of waffle to cover Bentham's shocking error of judgement. Most folk will take that waffle as gospel.
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