That's a childish thing to say.

I disagree with your point on Gardner because I disagree with it. I believe when looking at the whole package it is Makinson who is the 'much better option'. The only advantage Gardner has over Makinson is in his kick returns. In all other respects he is inferior to Makinson.

Each to their own choice.

However I don't think they are being compared like for like.

Makinson has not had any service. Playing an expansive game Makinson is a finisher with pace to beat people.
Playing a limited game the steady eddy clear you lines approach of Gardner has value.

I want to see Saints play football again and use the backs. Having Gardner on the end of line negates this , he offers no threat in a genuine attacking sense.

Think there is a place for Gardner at right second row. Tackles well is big enough and could still do his trademark scoots or first man plunges in exit sets.

Meli and Gardner provide better go forward than Makinson, but have less pace. I think Meli's guaranteed his place, (don't know why or particularly agree with it but I think that's the way it is), leaving it a choice between Makinson and Gardner for the right wing spot.

And drop him for who, exactly? Or, are you not being serious?

I think we are best off sticking with Soliola, personally.

For the record, I think I prefer Gardner over Makinson atm. Don't see the big fuss over Makinson currently, he's as error prone as Meli IMO.

Now that's a big call to make!

Even against a not so good Bradford outfit Meli still managed to mess up. In the end Makinson just has to bide his time, Meli is due to leave this season and unless we want to spend money on wingers rather than props and Halves (unlikely) next year Makinson is almost garunteed a spot.

Meli has made one more error than Makinson so far this season, so the statement stands if you consider Meli has played one more game!



As you say both Gardner and Meli will probably go at the end of the year, so Makinson is a shoe in next year. Wonder who will be on the other wing

Kyle Eastmond.

Dixon from London

Yes not a joke a serious opinion. SRs don't play 80 minutes anyway. Not an either or choice IMO.

You heard this mate or wishfull thinking ?

He looks a real talent! Bit small though.

He didn't half drop some clangers on Sunday at Wigan. He is very quick though, another Jodie Broughton?

I hope so, he has real pace and potential.

Having looked at the stats on Dixon. His last 11 attempts at tackles have seen him missing 10 of those.

Another Kevin Penny ?

There were some on here who wanted us to sign Omari Cairo a few months back.
Given his non performance against Salford, I'd take Ade Gardner any day of the week.

When there was talk of us signing Caro, I was in favour of it but he was horrendous against Salford. Glad we didn't get him.

Caro has been horrendous defensively all year, definitely a good miss on that one.

I understand the Giants tried to buy Gaskell in the close season but Saints would not sell him.

IS he injured or just out of favour?

He got dropped last game. He's not really out of favour, it's only been one game.

There is that many rumours going around god noes what's going on but by the looks of it he just been dropped

He's missed two games as he was told that he could not play by, the Pope, or the Prime Minister, or someone important like the coach.

This thread is lulsworthy and typical of your average know nowt saints fan

You seam to be trying to pick a fight with anyone who will bite. Fortunately you have picked a subject that has little to no grounds.

for example

Never a half back in a million years.

Probably a variety of reasons. Over-hyped , played out of position, confidence ???

I do feel Lomax would of been a great full back for Saints, however Wellens as seen to that never happening.

Both Lomax and Gaskell look shadows of themselves in 2011. We're in desperate need of a proper half back!

If we ever get the chance to experiment in team position, I would have Lomax playing at full back, Gaskell at scrum half, Swift at Stand Off and Wellens at Loose Forward.
I reckon by the end of the season Brown will have determined who is the next full back for 2014.
In the meantime, looks like another transitional year struggling to make the top 4.


And that's just the first page.

Only one person said he has been found out and that was a Wigan fan by the looks of it.

Someone with half a brain will realise the true intentions behind this thread.

It seems that those issues have been addressed and as a result we've seen a different player.

I will take credit for this