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| Quote ="jaybs"That is your opinion J Willard Gibbs, I do not need to defend my career experience on a forum. Respect, I have always earned throughout my career and that is all that is important, not faceless people on forums.'"
You [iare[/i a faceless person on a forum, just as Sadfish and I are. That's why your experience and training are irrelevant unless you can apply them to the discussion to address the specifics etc. And you have not done that.
Quote I Hope St Helens get a new RL ground, sooner than later, but too often comments on forums and in the weekly RL press show how parochial our game truly is and I doubt it will ever change, though that does not mean I will sit back and accept it.'"
You're off on one again. There's nothing parochial about asking you to pad out what you're saying with specifics etc.
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| Aside from how busy or not the club may be at present with marketing stuff or whatever, I think it would be nice of Saints to update the fans, especially given that back in August I think it was, we were told some fancy plans were to be made available very soon. I rather think that 'very soon' means sooner than 2010.
I'm starting to wonder whether the new stadium is actually going to happen.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Aside from how busy or not the club may be at present with marketing stuff or whatever, I think it would be nice of Saints to update the fans, especially given that back in August I think it was, we were told some fancy plans were to be made available very soon. I rather think that 'very soon' means sooner than 2010.'"
This is a good point I remember the same comments, i'll find out what happened to it next week.
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I'm starting to wonder whether the new stadium is actually going to happen.'"
As I've said before the last I heard 5 weeks ago was that within a month or two of the original dates it is on schedule, of course this is 5 weeks old now.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Aside from how busy or not the club may be at present with marketing stuff or whatever, I think it would be nice of Saints to update the fans, especially given that back in August I think it was, we were told some fancy plans were to be made available very soon. I rather think that 'very soon' means sooner than 2010.
I'm starting to wonder whether the new stadium is actually going to happen.'"
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I'm pleased that your points raised, similar to mine have been met and answered in a civil way, that is all that can be asked. It can be frustrating as I have said when announcements are promised and not delivered. Yes there is marketing to be done and Christmas, but it is not as if we are in mid season. Sadfish like your last response to me yesterday, it is again appreciated what you say to SaintsFan.
I do find it difficult, why a very few! seem to always want to be so defensive of anything said about their favourite clubs, I often wonder if it is to protect their "closeness" to someone within the club? Over the years I have seen so many good supporters at many clubs driven away by this attitude, do they not see that they do more damage than good at times?
We are all here for The Good of The Game as the old Rugby Leaguer used to announce!
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| Quote ="jaybs"SaintsFan
I'm pleased that your points raised, similar to mine have been met and answered in a civil way, that is all that can be asked. It can be frustrating as I have said when announcements are promised and not delivered. Yes there is marketing to be done and Christmas, but it is not as if we are in mid season. Sadfish like your last response to me yesterday, it is again appreciated what you say to SaintsFan.
I do find it difficult, why a very few! seem to always want to be so defensive of anything said about their favourite clubs, I often wonder if it is to protect their "closeness" to someone within the club? Over the years I have seen so many good supporters at many clubs driven away by this attitude, do they not see that they do more damage than good at times?
We are all here for The Good of The Game as the old Rugby Leaguer used to announce!'"
I'm always fair both ways with the club mate, if I think there is something happening and we should know about it I will pressure them for an answer, in a civil way of course, but if there is nothing happening then there is no reason to waste the clubs time.
If all that you are after is some updated plans of the new stadium then i'll ask next week, but in the grand scheme of things and the long road this project has been they aren't a priority really.
Both the directors and the fans know that if the chips are down I and other supporters bodies reps on here, and we are a strong group, side purely on the side of whats best for the club and not best for any specific individual or set of individuals.
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| Quote ="Sadfish"If all that you are after is some updated plans of the new stadium then i'll ask next week, but in the grand scheme of things and the long road this project has been they aren't a priority really.
Both the directors and the fans know that if the chips are down I and other supporters bodies reps on here, and we are a strong group, side purely on the side of whats best for the club and not best for any specific individual or set of individuals.'"
Sadfish,
I accept what you say, but what may or not be important and seen as a priority to the club, well to fans who have been promised updates and announcements, I'm sorry but it is important! I know that from what many say and discuss with me, as SaintsFan said some are starting to think, "I'm starting to wonder whether the new stadium is actually going to happen"
I credit the good work supporter groups do, but I am cynical and even with my own club, if they are really taken seriously in the real scheme of things? I do hope I am wrong.
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| Quote ="Sadfish"I'm always fair both ways with the club mate.
Both the directors and the fans know that if the chips are down I and other supporters bodies reps on here, and we are a strong group, side purely on the side of whats best for the club and not best for any specific individual or set of individuals.'"
Very true Sadfish.
When the fans spoke with one voice under the SBS Banner the results were astounding.
We always knew though that that was the first couple of battles in a very long campaign and that the campaign at times would go very quiet as part of the process.
I'm sure that the pieces are now finally falling into place and that we are nearly there now and I for one cant wait to see the first sod cut on the new development. That really will hopefully be the start of the home straight when we really can see all of the plans come to fruition.
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It's official, we're on the road in 2011.
www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/479 ... d/?ref=rss
Should give us advantage at the other end of the season in the run up to the playoffs when we have home games week after week in the new stadium. (looks for a smilie of someone praying).
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It's official, we're on the road in 2011.
www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/479 ... d/?ref=rss
Should give us advantage at the other end of the season in the run up to the playoffs when we have home games week after week in the new stadium. (looks for a smilie of someone praying).
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| BTW some posts pushing at the boundaries of credibility in this thread lately. We all know the club have consistently had to creep completion dates back with every anouncement and have released some unrealistic time lines. Either the club have been gullible in accepting what the developers have said then repeated it to us, or they have tried to paint a rosier picture than the real world.
Either way it's not good.
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| This is exciting:
"Saints also announced it will hold a series of fans forums over a week during February.
This will allow season ticket holders to view the venue’s layout and have the chance to reserve seats at the new stadium."
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Quote ="Donkey OTay"It's official, we're on the road in 2011.
www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/479 ... d/?ref=rss
Should give us advantage at the other end of the season in the run up to the playoffs when we have home games week after week in the new stadium. (looks for a smilie of someone praying).'"
As I understand it that won't happen, it will be your early "home games" that will be moved to other grounds.
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www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/479 ... d/?ref=rss
Should give us advantage at the other end of the season in the run up to the playoffs when we have home games week after week in the new stadium. (looks for a smilie of someone praying).'"
As I understand it that won't happen, it will be your early "home games" that will be moved to other grounds.
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| Good news for fans that the club has now committed to a press announcement that the move to the new ground will take place in season 2011, with only a few home games at the beginning of the season not at the new ground.
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| Quote ="jaybs"Good news for fans that the club has now committed to a press announcement that the move to the new ground will take place in season 2011, with only a few home games at the beginning of the season not at the new ground.'"
its nothing new to the fans on here or redvee , we reported in August that it would be during the middle of 2011.
In fact I even mentioned that early games would be played away from home at the time as it was announced at the shareholders meeting.
You need to catch up mate.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"A bit harsh that matey.
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| Quote ="Sadfish"its nothing new to the fans on here or redvee , we reported in August that it would be during the middle of 2011.
In fact I even mentioned that early games would be played away from home at the time as it was announced at the shareholders meeting.
You need to catch up mate.
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I was stating that it was good that a Press Announcement had been made! but No! some need to try and score points! so much for "All for the Good of The Game" is it more personal ego to have a go at someone who was just being genuine? )
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| Quote ="jaybs"I was stating that it was good that a Press Announcement had been made! but No! some need to try and score points! so much for "All for the Good of The Game" is it more personal ego to have a go at someone who was just being genuine?
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| FFS.
All that has been posted on here and Redvee are rumours, second hand info passed on by people who happened to be at a meeting, and tittle tattle.
So in this case they happened to come true, we're out at the end of the season. And you want to parade how 'in the know' we are.
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| Quote ="jaybs"I was stating that it was good that a Press Announcement had been made! but No! some need to try and score points! so much for "All for the Good of The Game" is it more personal ego to have a go at someone who was just being genuine?
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Your not in the Clique so don't let it bother you
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| Quote ="Donkey OTay"FFS.
All that has been posted on here and Redvee are rumours, second hand info passed on by people who happened to be at a meeting, and tittle tattle.
So in this case they happened to come true, we're out at the end of the season. And you want to parade how 'in the know' we are.
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haha yes siree! and don't you forget it!!!!!
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| Quote ="Rommel"Your not in the Clique so don't let it bother you
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Well that is the problem at my own club Quins RL, some people Think! they are in a clique and so have to answer to the piper.
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| [urlhttp://212.248.225.150:8080/portal/servlets/AttachmentShowServlet?ImageName=89700[/url
This is the origional plan that was handed in with the application to the council. If you zoom in to 300% you can see the internal lay out of the ground floor
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| According to that diagram, we only have about 2,500 seats.
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| Quote ="J. Willard Gibbs"According to that diagram, we only have about 2,500 seats.
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