He's pretty big so that's probably why. He's been a second rower coming through the ranks but I'd imagine he can probably play prop if needed to.

Certainly a lot bigger and different than the likes of Ashurst and Dixon coming through in recent years.

You have to credit our youth system, so many young lads have come through over the past few years, its great to see.

From a squad point of view, it's extremely healthy. We have several players competing against each other for spots in the 17, and the young players will feed of that. Hopefully NB will give players like Greenwood, Hand etc a shot against the so called "lesser teams" during the season and it will be gat to see how they develop.

I think Greenwood'll be involved a lot more this season, especially with the losses of Dixon and Magennis. He had a good game last night and ran a good line for his try, hopefully he can become more than a Salford-destined backrower like Dixon and Ashurst.

I presume that's part of the reason the likes of Ashurst and Dixon were let go.

Neither Ashurst or Dixon ever produced anything, they were solid backrowers but that's about it. Personally, I thought Dixon was worth keeping hold of, but since he's gone, it looks like Greenwood will have to step up this year. I just hope he can bring a bit more and stand out from the typical back rower we tend to produce.

Out of the young lads who came on I thought the lad on the wing Percivel (sp) did very well and was worthy of a mention.
With Puletua,Perry,Wheeler,Clough all missing the squad looks ok

Percival had pace. I kid you not, a Saints winger with pace.

Very hard to judge against a really poor Huddersfield side but all contributed and looks a little promising.

Percival is a very good young centre. I expect he played on the wing on Friday just to give him a bit of experience. He's also a decent goal kicker.

Jesus we've gone from having one kicker to possibly 4????????

Makinson
Turner
Percival
Lomax

Five. You have forgotten Gaskell, who is an excellent goal kicker.

It doesn't seem an age ago that we were hoping Longy would have his kicking boots on ...

About time too, always good to have some backup.

You seem to have some good young props cominmg through.
They will have to perform at their very best to get a game as this is Perry's last year on his contract so I'm sure he will be ripping it up for you in 2013.

He'll have to put in more yards and minutes than Jammer used to to get a new deal from us

Cant see Perry getting much game time this season. Up to now he's been a total wast. Knowing Brown's Reputation he will select the team on form and not reputation.

Do we think Turner will be first choice kicker now? Got 2/3 in the Huddersfield game.

I disagree, but only with the word total. He's had some games where he's been outstanding and shown he has a lot of strengths. Unfortunatley, just as he had started to win his detractors around, he hit some awful form for the playoffs.

A real dissapointment.

good training, we lost games when long went out and we had no one, so scully was just given the tee.

since then we have had so many kids coming up who have a good kick on them. again good training

Makinson was awful kicking last season at times. Missed some absolute sitters from what I recall.

We only need one goal kicker, far better to have 1 that can really kick than 5 who aren't too bad. I would imagine long term Percival will be the kicker but short term you can understand Brown looking at his options.

Makinson is very very erratic. Kicks from the touch line then slices them when they are much closer to the posts. Lomax is about Long's level of goalkicking I'd say.

I think having our best kicker as our lead kicker is a good idea but I don't think any team can have too many goal kickers. Say Gaskell is our best kicker. He should get first dibs at the kicking in a match and then unless goal kicks become absolutely crucial to the outcome, he should be interchanged as kicker with any of our other kickers so that Gaskell remains fresh and others get game time kicking practice in. All it would take in those circumstances would be for Gaskell to be injured and unless our other kickers were up to speed we could find ourselves struggling for points.

Long used to be a good kicker, he just got worse with age

I only saw Long kick in his 'old age'! Had to cover my eyes when he took an important kick, even from bang in front!

I think most of the time he kicked OK when it really mattered, bet the bulls and wire fans still have long nightmares.

2 years on the run doing them by the drop goals, the second being millwards last game......good times