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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I think having Roby and Moore settled at hooker will do them both good (moreso Moore as hes hardly played there this year) With the pack we have we should be fine through most regular games, and our backs will be stronger too, it was a season too many for Gids, and having Soliola and Shenton in the centres will be an improvement on this year.
We need a class winger, so i'd say so long to Flannery and Meli, free up two quota spots and get shopping!'"
I think both roby and moore will want to prove they can fill the boots of KC.
I can't see Soliola playing centre, he not fast enough and looks to be a big hitting tough backrow we have lacked.
I would see whats about and if we can bring in two new players for meli and flannery then that would be great but i think they will both get one year deal as the ain't anyone out there to bring in.
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| Quote ="St pete"I think both roby and moore will want to prove they can fill the boots of KC.
I can't see Soliola playing centre, he not fast enough and looks to be a big hitting tough backrow we have lacked.
I would see whats about and if we can bring in two new players for meli and flannery then that would be great but i think they will both get one year deal as the ain't anyone out there to bring in.'"
Roby has proved that he can fill the boots of KC but I don't think Scott Moore is good enough tbh.
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| Quote ="Dux"A thought I've been mulling over for a couple of days:
IF there was a top quality Aussie stand off available - one who can really boss a game tactically and who has a very good kicking game (I know they don't grow on trees, but there's a few of them down there), would anyone be tempted to sign him up and let Pryce go to Bradford for some cash?
What has been really noticeable to me in each of the four finals (maybe not so much 2009) is that we've completely lost the plot under the pressure of the big occasion and failed miserably to do the simple things right. I think we'd benefit profoundly from a player in the halves who could provide a cool-headed brand of leadership (Wellens and Jammer are both leaders in a motivational sense, but they both tend to go mental when things are getting difficult, which doesn't always help IMO).
Obviously, the downside would be losing a fantastic attacking player in Pryce, and exchanging a British star for an Aussie one, which is never ideal.
Just a thought.'"
I know what your saying, a player in the trent barret mould is the type of player we need in the halfs, i'd defo go for that.
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| Quote ="St pete"I know what your saying, a player in the trent barret mould is the type of player we need in the halfs, i'd defo go for that.'"
But the majority on here said Trent Barrett was crap.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But the majority on here said Trent Barrett was crap.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"In 20 years the Discovery Channel will have a documentary about him. "Mythbusters: Was Trent Barrett real?".'"
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| He used to go missing in the big games. He was only there so the wigan women could swoon and wet their knickers over him.
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| Quote ="cjhatesunion"icon_lol.gif Uncalled for,he was a decent player you have to admit that Saddened.'" Everyone would, he just wasn't quite the gift from above some speccies would have had you believe. I think the game that defines how Sts fans take the was when you lost that semi to Catalan and Stacey Jones stole the show.
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| Quote ="Trav2005"He used to go missing in the big games. He was only there so the wigan women could swoon and wet their knickers over him.'"
What about the fellas as well.
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| Quote Yup. Throw Jamie Lyon into the side that lost to Wigan this year. (And a fit Pryce and Eastmond) We would have won.'"
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| I honestly don't see the problem. Seriously, if someone had told me four years ago we'd reach the GF four times in a row and lose I'd have taken it. When Martyn retired, Scully began breaking down repeatedly and Keiron had that bad year with his elbow I thought our number was up. There were a lot of great players either leaving or reaching the ends of the careers. We had no money to replace them (certainly none for world record transfers) and McManus said repeatedly that we had to cut costs and go with the juniors. I had primed myself fully for three or four modest years whilst other sides took their turn at the glory.
Given the above I think we have done remarkably well. Our fullback is paceless. Our wingers can't catch. We have one recognised centre who is close to pensionable age. Our backline in general has little penetration. Our stand-off's form has been sketchy. At scrum-half we've either fielded an old crock or a young crock (admittedly with sublime skills). We've run with a Wigan-reject as a starting prop whilst Cayless' form dropped into the abyss. Our star foreign signing was wiped out at the start of this season and all of our best youngsters have been crocked for lengthy periods etc.
With this in mind I think it's been a phucking MIRACLE we've done so well!
Next season we'll start clawing back some of the ground we have lost on other teams over the last three or four years. The signings we have made are about as good as I hoped for. All of this current generation of kids (with the possible exception of Lomax) will be fully mature and far more capable of dealing with the physical aspect of the game. With a bit of luck the extra bulk will protect them against the kind of battering only SL dishes out. For the first time in four years I'm quite optimistic.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But the majority on here said Trent Barrett was crap.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But the majority on here said Trent Barrett was crap.
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| If we can improve our defence we'll in the Grand Final playing Wigoon next year. Leeds and Wire need to grab hold of a huge forward or hope we have injuries before they will force their way into my reckoning for the title next year.
The one big thing we have to overcome next year is playing at Widnes. We'll effectively be playing our home games at a neutral venue which is a disadvantage although KR hasn't been a fortress for a good couple of years now so I suppose it might not be as crucial as we think.
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| Quote ="McClennan"If we can improve our defence '"
and our discipline (in the broadest sense of the word).
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I think it will be advantageous to us to play on a bigger pitch as I reckon it hasn't helped us being at home on probably the smallest pitch in the league.'"
Surely your better of on a smaller pitch? With the frontrow you'll have next year, smashing teams into the ground will be your best option for success. On a wider pitch your slow backs will be exposed to an even greater extent just like they were in the GF on the large Old Trafford pitch.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Surely your better of on a smaller pitch? '"
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Surely your better of on a smaller pitch? With the frontrow you'll have next year, smashing teams into the ground will be your best option for success. On a wider pitch your slow backs will be exposed to an even greater extent just like they were in the GF on the large Old Trafford pitch.'" Granted, although if, by some miricle we keep wheeler (assuming he's playing centre), Easmond and new centre Senton fit, we shouldn't [ias[/i worried about defending against pace out wide.
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| I think keeping hold of Eastmond will be a tall order and I dont think Saints will sell their soul for one player.
I can see him moving on sooner than people think.
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| Quote ="The Chief"I think keeping hold of Eastmond will be a tall order and I dont think Saints will sell their soul for one player.
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| Quote ="The Chief"I think keeping hold of Eastmond will be a tall order and I dont think Saints will sell their soul for one player.
I can see him moving on sooner than people think.'" Given the length of his last contract, I expeted him to play this year (his first full season at scrum half) and then renegotiate a longer term deal once we knew he could handle the 7 shirt. The fact he's been injured so much will disrupt that, meaning if he has a stormer next season, we will have trouble getting him to resign come the end of the year when his contract expires.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"yup, a good union offer and he's off'"
I'm still not sure any Union club will spend that much money on a player that probably won't want to play on the wing, is fairly untested and is injury prone.
The Union talk was a lot of bluster from his agent to try and up his deal because no other SL club would be able to afford to pay him much more than us.
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| Eastmond won't go to Union IMO. He's just signed a big money deal to be the face of the new rugby league game and I'm sure it's s couple of years the contract lasts for. The Union talk was all agent talk.
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| Quote ="The Hurricane"Eastmond won't go to Union IMO. He's just signed a big money deal to be the face of the new rugby league game and I'm sure it's s couple of years the contract lasts for. The Union talk was all agent talk.'"
There's a new RL physio sim coming out?
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| I can see him going to Warrington.
No one else i thinkthough.
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