Im ok with shenton and wheeler but in a ideal world I'd love a centre like loughlin, he was the perfect centre.

We desperate for two props and a good experinced scrum half.

It wasn't and they weren't. Our forwards were the problem. They weren't taking the ball forward with gusto, shall we say, and they were lazy in defence too, some of them. We need an aggressive prop or two who will make yards for us. Perry should have been that man of course but so far he's been a bit wimpy really. But I'd go for a prop if I could only choose one and had to choose for this season.


That was far better than any barge over Meli has ever done. It was very courageous and he spun around to protect the ball and give himself more momentum. Meli just uses his weight and runs forward. He could be a fine prop except that he would go missing in defence.

I'd have Ellis in a heartbeat. He'll probably go back to Leeds, but if many NRL experts still think he is the best second row in their competition and Wests felt like he was worth at least another year, he would still be brilliant in our league. If a player that good becomes available I think you'd have to be mad not to be in the mix for him.

Plus, he's bigger than most of our props anyway.

IMO we need a winger, left centre, a scrum half and 2 big props. I'd say 5 out of a starting 13 is pretty much all over the park.

Sam Tomkins & Gareth Ellis

Cobblers. We're as good as we could reasonably be expected to be in the 3/4s given the salary cap and the level of talent potentially available on the market. I get a little weary of the constant calls from the kneejerk brigades for the quick fix signings of all these new Newloves and Sullivans that simply just don't exist in our game anymore and that strangely enough noone else in the league has either... I can't honestly think of another 3/4 line in the division, except for perhaps Warrington's, that would be worth swapping with ours. That to me is proof positive that our backline is fine as it is.

I'd say we need 1 prop.

You may say we don't have International class in every position but then what team does nowa days. In terms of the top sides we have pretty much comparable standard of play in all positions but Prop.

You are in very great danger of becoming the official voice of reason on this board. I'd be very careful if I were you

I know it's slightly off topic, but of those who were available last winter, who could we have signed to do a better job? It's one of the joys of the salary cap, every team has got strengths and weaknesses.

Back on topic, I honestly can't think of a prop aged under 30 in SL who I think would improve us greatly, so I'd go for that James Graham bloke from the NRL plus Watkins from Leeds.

It's not just a matter of doing a better job. ie replacing a player. It's about adding to the current roster not taking anything away. We where in for a few props but could not land them. The big question is if we could not land a prefered prop, why not get one less prefered, even if on a 2 year deal it would not be a total waste if the player was a disaster.

Meet Anthony Laffranchi.

Muppet!

Are you calling me a muppet there? Can't figure it out

He's started pretty well tbh but i think the reply was due to him being (yet another) backrower

Oh I'm not doubting him, I think he's been one of our best 'props' to date. However, I'm not sure he would be here if we had bagged players that we really wanted.

We where still looking for props, after we had signed La Franki.

La Franki was signed very early on

Yeah I know, but I believe we had approached others before him. The props we were looking at after Laffranchi were english, post September.

James Graham,heard a lot about this guy,apparently very good prop,just what we need at this moment.

We went for Waterhouse before laffranchci but he opted for another club.

Laffranchci has done ok considering he's playing in a postion he's not used to with no other quality props.

I think laffranchci would have been the ideal prop to partner jammer if he'd stayed but unfortunately for laffranchci he's not got another good hard working prop alongside him.

Yeah he's definitely going well at the minute, if Perry gets back to any sort of form they'll make a good starting front row.

They ain't the greatest of props tho and that's why we will struggle this year.

Definitely our weakness.

Just for the record I was calling you the Muppet. He has been one of our best forwards this year. Admittedly that doesn't say much, But if our other props were working as hard we wouldn't be in the position we are in. Already scored 2 tries which is more than all the other props put together. All I ask is a little perspective!!!!!

Read my posts.

I thought we give up on Waterhouse to retain Puletua as Griffin seemed in the bag and Laffranchi was the cheaper option of the 2.